dogsupreme

Posts: 42

I cannot predict the future but books I think are under valued
,
World's finest 3 (first scarecrow),
Fantastic four 48
batman 181
Action comics 58 (probably one of the most historically interesting superman covers)
Wonder woman 178
Grenada 1984 (historically awesome, practically unknown)

Books that I think are high risk investments due to over speculation IMO,
New Mutants 98 --approx 275k printed and there are a lot of collectors sitting on this
\wonder woman 98 (series 1). Guide value is way low, but market prices are over the top
Fantastic four 45,52 (I just do not believe these are nearly as key as 48, but due to speculation they have been selling for as much if not more)
edited by knparzival on 1/4/2016

Gilgandra

Posts: 1246

Here are some books that I think are ripe for speculation and dirt cheap right now. I would get high grade copies out of the bargain bins if you come across them. Remember NOVA #1 and MS.MARVEL #1 were once bargain bin fodder:

POWER PACK #1-I think it is only a matter of time that Disney will develop this property and right now high grade copies can be gotten for less than $5.

RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK #1-This is the first comic appearance of INDIANA JONES and dirt cheap in high grade. I think if Disney does more Indy movies this could start to rise.

MICRONAUTS #1-1st appearance of the Micronauts

SUPERMAN'S PAL, JIMMY OLSEN #133- All the attention is on #134 but 133 is the first appearance of the Kirby's FOURTH WORLD and greatly overlooked and undervalued.

BRAVE AND BOLD #85-1st modern GREEN ARROW. With the new ARROW series on a roll this is a greatly overlooked book and it also has great Neal Adams art

ADVENTURE COMICS #250-this is considered the 1st Silver age GREEN ARROW. New origin with art by Jack Kirby

dammagededdie

Posts: 2

Nice list DS. I'm after Jimmy Olsen #133 & 134 (a little hard to find at the moment).
Power Pack is cool & I didn't know about Adventure Comics #250 (have to keep an eye out for that one) Not the biggest fan of Green Arrow but a sweet Jack Kirby Origin issue.

knparzival

Posts: 16

knparzival wrote:

I cannot predict the future but books I think are under valued
,
World's finest 3 (first scarecrow),
Fantastic four 48
batman 181
Action comics 58 (probably one of the most historically interesting superman covers)
Wonder woman 178
Grenada 1984 (historically awesome, practically unknown)

Books that I think are high risk investments due to over speculation IMO,
New Mutants 98 --approx 275k printed and there are a lot of collectors sitting on this
\wonder woman 98 (series 1). Guide value is way low, but market prices are over the top
Fantastic four 45,52 (I just do not believe these are nearly as key as 48, but due to speculation they have been selling for as much if not more)
edited by knparzival on 1/4/2016

World's finest #3 (I assume you mean the Golden Age) maybe out of the realm of most collector's however
BATMAN #189 (1st silver age Scarecrow) maybe better in terms of growth

FF #48 has always been a key blue chip so values are pretty steady on that one

BATMAN #181-1st Poison Ivy. Nice book but already pretty steep.
ACTION #58?-What's up with that book?

Wonder Woman #178-I assume you mean volume 1 where she loses her powers and becomes a feminist
ey
Grenada I never heard of. Got a cover? Who is the publisher?

I agree on NEW MUTANTS #98. There are a lot of copies out there. Never seem to have problem finding a copy. It's the price that puts me off.

Wonder Woman #98 is a pretty expensive book already. I did not know it is the 1st silver age WW. I assumed it was #105 where she gets a new origin.

FF #45 and 52 may be in flux. It depends on how the characters are received in the movies. Both are hard to find in high gade anyway.

dogsupreme

Posts: 42

Gilgandra wrote:

Nice list DS. I'm after Jimmy Olsen #133 & 134 (a little hard to find at the moment).
Power Pack is cool & I didn't know about Adventure Comics #250 (have to keep an eye out for that one) Not the biggest fan of Green Arrow but a sweet Jack Kirby Origin issue.

I have a #134 for sale, shoot me a message if interested.

Moon Knight #1 (80's) seems be have increased recently. NM copies were going for around $10 and are now up to $20.
edited by dammagededdie on 1/6/2016
edited by dammagededdie on 1/6/2016

CapnDoug

Administrator

Posts: 151

dammagededdie wrote:

Gilgandra wrote:

Nice list DS. I'm after Jimmy Olsen #133 & 134 (a little hard to find at the moment).
Power Pack is cool & I didn't know about Adventure Comics #250 (have to keep an eye out for that one) Not the biggest fan of Green Arrow but a sweet Jack Kirby Origin issue.

I have a #134 for sale, shoot me a message if interested.

Moon Knight #1 (80's) seems be have increased recently. NM copies were going for around $10 and are now up to $20.
edited by dammagededdie on 1/6/2016
edited by dammagededdie on 1/6/2016

I have seen increases of MOON KNIGHT for sure and #1 has long been in the $1 for what seems like forever. I am at a loss on the increase however, since I have heard nothing significant with the character as a whole. He can't seem to hold a series and is a character that seems to be in search of an identity. His appearances in MARVEL SPOTLIGHT also seem on the rise. I also know he had a solo run in the Marvel magazine sized MARVEL PREVIEW. I, for one, think his first appearance is WAY overpriced BUT people seem to be paying it. Even low grade copies are going for crazy money.

Oxbladder

Posts: 487

dogsupreme wrote:

knparzival wrote:

I cannot predict the future but books I think are under valued
,
World's finest 3 (first scarecrow),
Fantastic four 48
batman 181
Action comics 58 (probably one of the most historically interesting superman covers)
Wonder woman 178
Grenada 1984 (historically awesome, practically unknown)

Books that I think are high risk investments due to over speculation IMO,
New Mutants 98 --approx 275k printed and there are a lot of collectors sitting on this
\wonder woman 98 (series 1). Guide value is way low, but market prices are over the top
Fantastic four 45,52 (I just do not believe these are nearly as key as 48, but due to speculation they have been selling for as much if not more)
edited by knparzival on 1/4/2016

World's finest #3 (I assume you mean the Golden Age) maybe out of the realm of most collector's however
BATMAN #189 (1st silver age Scarecrow) maybe better in terms of growth

FF #48 has always been a key blue chip so values are pretty steady on that one

BATMAN #181-1st Poison Ivy. Nice book but already pretty steep.
ACTION #58?-What's up with that book?

Wonder Woman #178-I assume you mean volume 1 where she loses her powers and becomes a feminist
ey
Grenada I never heard of. Got a cover? Who is the publisher?

I agree on NEW MUTANTS #98. There are a lot of copies out there. Never seem to have problem finding a copy. It's the price that puts me off.

Wonder Woman #98 is a pretty expensive book already. I did not know it is the 1st silver age WW. I assumed it was #105 where she gets a new origin.

FF #45 and 52 may be in flux. It depends on how the characters are received in the movies. Both are hard to find in high gade anyway.

The reason I like worlds finest 3 is that a lot of people think of detective 73 as scarecrows first when it is only his first cover appearance. Although Worlds finest 3 is not a cheap book, it is relative to detective 73. The detective book does have a much cooler cover so I understand that it adds a lot of value, but compared to other golden age firsts, the scarcity some of the worlds finest books and values of other key characters of the period, I see this book selling for relatively cheap.

Fantastic 48 for has always been a blue chip, but it seems to be getting overshadowed by some "newely hot". If one were to equate comics to stocks, I see fantastic four 48 would be like Microsoft and 45/52 as hot biotech companies. I think a lot of people are interested in some of these other books because they have had so much appreciation which has resulted in the overshadowing of some of the classics. I am not going to say that these other books wont do well, I just think a lot of their value is based on speculation which may or may not pan out. In my own opinion 48 is a much bigger key but the prices no longer reflect that. People however seem to be chasing books based on how quickly they have shot up recently vs how key the book is.

The reason I like batman 181 over 189, is that 181 is a true first appearance. I do not feel that silver age first appearances are nearly as significant as true first appearances. Also do to speculation I believe poison ivys first appearance has been overshadowed by batgirl, harley and super woman. In terms of scarcity and historic popularity I feel poison ivy has been the underdog in terms of value.

Many people do not know about Grenada and to me that is probably one of the only reasons this is not a 4+ figure book. This book is not only super rare it has been associated with CIA black Ops and was used as propaganda by the US against communism. If you collect books because of historical importance vs whos in it this is a book to have. The problem is the only people who seem to know about it are conspiracy theorists. There are a lot of collectors who will pay good money for historically cool books including myself. The problem is few collectors even know that this exists.

Yes, 178 is where she lost her powers. This is book is very important in terms of wonder woman's histery and is very hard to find in high grade because a lot of collectors are not willing to sell unless it is for $$$$. Cheap copies are however are still floating out there of really low grade copies. As wonder woman popularity grows this books seems to be getting much harder to find because there are not a lot of other wonder woman keys especially as cheap as this one.

Wonder woman 105 use to be considered to be first silver age book and major key of that time period. The new school of wonder woman collecting has essentially announced that wonder woman 98 was the true fist silver age. As a result GD copies of this book essentially became multi-thousand dollar comics almost over night. Although it is a scarce book IMO those prices are too high

Actions comics 58 is a very tough book to find especially in mid+ grade. It is a famous and very racist cover superman says "slap jap". Although this book will fetch a slight premium, I think it has been way under valued which is probably why a nice copy is nearly impossible to find. For people who collect historic covers, I think this is one of the must own books, but the prices do not reflect it

Keep in mind this is all just my opinion.

Oxbladder

Posts: 487

You are right in that some guides listed 85 as the first silver age. There is however a "new" train of thought that the first silver age appearance so not based on the date the book was published but when the series was modified to the readers of that time which is why a lot of the Origins published in the 1950's and 1960's are noted as first silver age appearance even though they occurred at different dates in times.

LivinintheCorner

Posts: 2

I cannot predict the future but books I think are under valued
,
World's finest 3 (first scarecrow),
Fantastic four 48
batman 181
Action comics 58 (probably one of the most historically interesting superman covers)
Wonder woman 178
Grenada 1984 (historically awesome, practically unknown)

Books that I think are high risk investments due to over speculation IMO,
New Mutants 98 --approx 275k printed and there are a lot of collectors sitting on this
\wonder woman 98 (series 1). Guide value is way low, but market prices are over the top
Fantastic four 45,52 (I just do not believe these are nearly as key as 48, but due to speculation they have been selling for as much if not more)
edited by knparzival on 1/4/2016