1/4/2016
Topic:
WHAT'S HOT, WHAT'S NOT
knparzival
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I cannot predict the future but books I think are under valued
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World's finest 3 (first scarecrow),
Fantastic four 48
batman 181
Action comics 58 (probably one of the most historically interesting superman covers)
Wonder woman 178
Grenada 1984 (historically awesome, practically unknown)
Books that I think are high risk investments due to over speculation IMO,
New Mutants 98 --approx 275k printed and there are a lot of collectors sitting on this
\wonder woman 98 (series 1). Guide value is way low, but market prices are over the top
Fantastic four 45,52 (I just do not believe these are nearly as key as 48, but due to speculation they have been selling for as much if not more)
edited by knparzival on 1/4/2016 |
1/4/2016
Topic:
"Raw" Prices vs. "Graded" Prices
knparzival
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As far as I am aware a graded copy is always worth more than a non-graded copy. Buy getting a graded book not only do you have a higher confidence in the seller representing the grade properly, you get an enclosure. The premiums for graded books however is seeming to come down especially for modern books. I believe that is because people are starting to release getting a 9.6 or 9.8 for a modern book is not that rare. I think the true value and premiums for graded books come in to play when dealing with much older books. There are so many defects that are hard to detect online or at a crowded comic shows including things like color touch ups, missing pages and trimming. A lot of people including myself will pay more for a graded copy to protect them self even if its not a high grade book.
edited by knparzival on 1/4/2016 |
1/6/2016
Topic:
WHAT'S HOT, WHAT'S NOT
knparzival
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dogsupreme wrote:
knparzival wrote:
I cannot predict the future but books I think are under valued
,
World's finest 3 (first scarecrow),
Fantastic four 48
batman 181
Action comics 58 (probably one of the most historically interesting superman covers)
Wonder woman 178
Grenada 1984 (historically awesome, practically unknown)
Books that I think are high risk investments due to over speculation IMO,
New Mutants 98 --approx 275k printed and there are a lot of collectors sitting on this
\wonder woman 98 (series 1). Guide value is way low, but market prices are over the top
Fantastic four 45,52 (I just do not believe these are nearly as key as 48, but due to speculation they have been selling for as much if not more)
edited by knparzival on 1/4/2016
World's finest #3 (I assume you mean the Golden Age) maybe out of the realm of most collector's however
BATMAN #189 (1st silver age Scarecrow) maybe better in terms of growth
FF #48 has always been a key blue chip so values are pretty steady on that one
BATMAN #181-1st Poison Ivy. Nice book but already pretty steep.
ACTION #58?-What's up with that book?
Wonder Woman #178-I assume you mean volume 1 where she loses her powers and becomes a feminist
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Grenada I never heard of. Got a cover? Who is the publisher?
I agree on NEW MUTANTS #98. There are a lot of copies out there. Never seem to have problem finding a copy. It's the price that puts me off.
Wonder Woman #98 is a pretty expensive book already. I did not know it is the 1st silver age WW. I assumed it was #105 where she gets a new origin.
FF #45 and 52 may be in flux. It depends on how the characters are received in the movies. Both are hard to find in high gade anyway.
The reason I like worlds finest 3 is that a lot of people think of detective 73 as scarecrows first when it is only his first cover appearance. Although Worlds finest 3 is not a cheap book, it is relative to detective 73. The detective book does have a much cooler cover so I understand that it adds a lot of value, but compared to other golden age firsts, the scarcity some of the worlds finest books and values of other key characters of the period, I see this book selling for relatively cheap.
Fantastic 48 for has always been a blue chip, but it seems to be getting overshadowed by some "newely hot". If one were to equate comics to stocks, I see fantastic four 48 would be like Microsoft and 45/52 as hot biotech companies. I think a lot of people are interested in some of these other books because they have had so much appreciation which has resulted in the overshadowing of some of the classics. I am not going to say that these other books wont do well, I just think a lot of their value is based on speculation which may or may not pan out. In my own opinion 48 is a much bigger key but the prices no longer reflect that. People however seem to be chasing books based on how quickly they have shot up recently vs how key the book is.
The reason I like batman 181 over 189, is that 181 is a true first appearance. I do not feel that silver age first appearances are nearly as significant as true first appearances. Also do to speculation I believe poison ivys first appearance has been overshadowed by batgirl, harley and super woman. In terms of scarcity and historic popularity I feel poison ivy has been the underdog in terms of value.
Many people do not know about Grenada and to me that is probably one of the only reasons this is not a 4+ figure book. This book is not only super rare it has been associated with CIA black Ops and was used as propaganda by the US against communism. If you collect books because of historical importance vs whos in it this is a book to have. The problem is the only people who seem to know about it are conspiracy theorists. There are a lot of collectors who will pay good money for historically cool books including myself. The problem is few collectors even know that this exists.
Yes, 178 is where she lost her powers. This is book is very important in terms of wonder woman's histery and is very hard to find in high grade because a lot of collectors are not willing to sell unless it is for $$$$. Cheap copies are however are still floating out there of really low grade copies. As wonder woman popularity grows this books seems to be getting much harder to find because there are not a lot of other wonder woman keys especially as cheap as this one.
Wonder woman 105 use to be considered to be first silver age book and major key of that time period. The new school of wonder woman collecting has essentially announced that wonder woman 98 was the true fist silver age. As a result GD copies of this book essentially became multi-thousand dollar comics almost over night. Although it is a scarce book IMO those prices are too high
Actions comics 58 is a very tough book to find especially in mid+ grade. It is a famous and very racist cover superman says "slap jap". Although this book will fetch a slight premium, I think it has been way under valued which is probably why a nice copy is nearly impossible to find. For people who collect historic covers, I think this is one of the must own books, but the prices do not reflect it
Keep in mind this is all just my opinion. |
1/7/2016
Topic:
Centerfold detached -- how high can it grade?
knparzival
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Grading tends to be a lot more forgiving when it comes to centerfolds and for good reason. I have books with detached centerfolds with a 5.5 and would probably have received a 5.5 even if the staples were in tact. If you think about it a detached centerfold is often the result of a poor stapling job. When the cover is detached it is often a result to damage to the book spine. I think it comes down to whether or not the detachment is related to a rip in the book or the staples not connecting well as result of a poor stabling job which is fairly common when it comes to golden age books. |
1/7/2016
Topic:
Ruk's list-Who has the best collection
knparzival
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I feel like a 1 off. I am within the top 50 according to the list but my collection appears to be smaller than most others (under 2k books). The value however is way off relative to the market on most of my books so I'm not sure were I should really fit. Many of these books I collect sell for 10x the listed value so my listed value is not a good reflection of market value. Real life comics 3, Fantastic comics 22, Green hornet comics 13, marvel mystery 46 is just a small example of what I am referring to. |
1/7/2016
Topic:
Which service to use?
knparzival
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My understanding is that you can submit yourself to CGC through a partnered dealer http://www.cgccomics.com/services/Submitting.aspx .
I feel that CBCS is just as good as CGC. There are people who however will still pay a slightly higher premium for CGC but over time that gap seems to be closing. Because CBCS is a slightly cheaper service, I think they are both good choices for submitting a book to be graded. |
1/22/2016
Topic:
Centerfold detached -- how high can it grade?
knparzival
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I cannot speak for modern books because I do not collect them. I can however tell you with confidence that getting over a 5.0 is quite possible for a detached centerfold for golden age and makes complete sense too me. It was not uncommon for a golden age book to have a poorly attached centerfold at time of publishing and it would do a book injustice to dock it that much for something was likely a result of how the book was published. Keep in mind there are a decent number of books that had only 1 staple and books were not always stapled all of the way through. From what I can tell grading companies agree with this assertion based on books I have seen graded with detached covers. |
1/22/2016
Topic:
WHAT'S HOT, WHAT'S NOT
knparzival
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You are right in that some guides listed 85 as the first silver age. There is however a "new" train of thought that the first silver age appearance so not based on the date the book was published but when the series was modified to the readers of that time which is why a lot of the Origins published in the 1950's and 1960's are noted as first silver age appearance even though they occurred at different dates in times. |
3/4/2016
Topic:
Centerfold detached -- how high can it grade?
knparzival
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Here are some examples.
http://s153.photobucket.com/user/zzutak/media/CGC-Blue/B8-11.jpg.html
http://s153.photobucket.com/user/zzutak/media/CGC-Blue/B8-12.jpg.html
http://s153.photobucket.com/user/zzutak/media/CGC-Blue/B8-13.jpg.html |
3/6/2016
Topic:
Signed Comics
knparzival
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There is no magic bullet on coming up with the value of signed books. The amount people are willing to pay depends greatly on how confident the person is regarding the signature being legit because if there is any doubt people will tend to view the signature as damage to the book which lowers the value. Also different signatures will have a different impact. Stan lees signature will tend to add at least $50 to a book, but a relatively unknown persons signature may actually reduce the value. Personally I avoid any signature that I did not get myself or has not been witnessed by cgc. |
6/4/2016
Topic:
New CGC Case
knparzival
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Two questions I have are
1. Is the issue as bad as CBCS is making it sound? (ie they are offering a discount to reslab CGC books at a discount because of the "problems")
2. Has or is the problem being fixed? |
6/9/2016
Topic:
Signing: value or destruction?
knparzival
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Now that there are better ways to authenticate signatures I think the view on this has changed dramatically over the last decade. 20 years ago the biggest problem with signatures was that it was extremely hard to validate them because there were few sources to reference he signatures against so they can be validated. If the signature cannot be validated it was assumed to potentially be fake making buyers have to assume the worst to avoid risk. Now that we have better ways to validate a signature this is not nearly as big of a problem. If you look at art, a signature is not considered damage even though one can argue it detracts from the art. Most people will typically spend more for a lithograph that Picasso or Dali signed then one he did not. I will admit though that most comic artists and writers do not rise to the level of these artists but, I believe there we will almost always be people who will wont some of their signatures and so long as they are willing to pay for them, they will likely add value to a book. Keep in mind not all signatures are equal and if a signature is placed poorly or is by someone who know one knows about, it could negatively impact what someone is willing to pay for it.
edited by knparzival on 6/9/2016 |
6/9/2016
Topic:
New CGC Case
knparzival
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I agree, I think what is hurting CGC the most is what appears to be a lack of communication about the problems. If they simply apologized and stated that they are working on fixing the problem, I would have a lot more respect for them. |
10/21/2016
Topic:
Whitman Publishing 3 comic pack?? Any info??
knparzival
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The whitman 3 packs of interest tend to be from the early 80s. There where a few months in which some whitman comics were believed to have only been published in 3 packs making them much scarcer. They had a huge spike in value around a decade ago. After that I believe more of them started to hit ebay and the market so Ibelieve they are not as rare as originally thought. They have value, the demand is slightly higher then the more common books but I think the overall interest is not very high
http://www.dougcomicworld.com/INVENTORY-WhitmanComicsSite.html |
1/3/2017
Topic:
What company to use for grading comics
knparzival
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I use both CBCS and CGC. Both CGC and CBCS has had issues with their encapsulation and both have been fixed.. CGC's issues were just much more recent. |
6/18/2018
Topic:
Super-Dooper Comics
knparzival
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Unable to find Super-Dooper Comics
https://comicbookrealm.com/series/47253/0/super-dooper-comics |
