Oxbladder

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7/11/2016
Topic:
Ecxalibur

Oxbladder
Oxbladder
Just to clarify. Comic companies were not and have never over-saturated. They print to demand not random numbers. It is incredibly risky business to print some random number.

Back at that time a whole pile of people came from the dying trading card market and puffed up the number of collectors. They didn't do their research and lost money and most, if not all, bailed out enmasse. Since dealers have to order two months in advance it took months for the market to adjust.

Now people think the variant printing is an example of what happened in the 90's and it is to an extent but the big difference is that people are still buying them and while there can be excesses of the regular printing it isn't quite as bad as the the leftovers during the 90's crash. I also don't see interest in variants suddenly ending. The extra regular copies left over are also not often losses they are gravy, even if they get discounted.
7/11/2016
Topic:
Rebirth 2016

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Oxbladder
DC has been brutal for not including all issues of a series in their trades. They have gotten better but they still do it. Marvel rarely does it and Image and other publishers never.

I just don't understand why the brain trust at DC does what they do. I think it is because they are are lead by a bunch of old guard who believe they know everything.
7/11/2016
Topic:
I'm new to this and confused - New Mutants 98

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Oxbladder
CPG uses algorithms for CGC pricing and they are very slow to correct them.
7/13/2016
Topic:
Detective Comics # 936 cover changes...

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Oxbladder
Well, there could be variants and the cover that you mention could have been one of them. Or if the cover you mention was seen in previews you always need to be aware that and look for the the note that the art shown may not be the final art.
7/15/2016
Topic:
Unslabbing books?

Oxbladder
Oxbladder
Not really, no. The CBCS holder is even harder to open.
7/24/2016
Topic:
1st Appearances VS. Cameos: The Money Books

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Oxbladder
aarondawe wrote:


As an aside, my older Overstreet guides have 180 as more valuable than 181. I think this is evidence that people only wish to pay more for the first full issue of the character, even if it's not his true 'first' appearance.

Aaron



Except that is not true in every case. See X-23 #1 Dell'Otto Variant, SPJO #134, etc.
7/24/2016
Topic:
Issues selling too cheap online.

Oxbladder
Oxbladder
Um, are you going by the CPG price guide? If you are you should know that they do NOT stay on top of prices they way you think they do. Most of their graded prices use a very old algorithm that is so far from accurate that it really needs to be retooled. Currently the most recent realised prices on eBay have been around $150-200 for a third party graded 9.8. Third party graded 9.6's are bouncing all over the map from less than $100 to over $130.
7/26/2016
Topic:
1st Appearances VS. Cameos: The Money Books

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Oxbladder
In the case of NYX #3 it is more or less a cameo. I can't remember exactly but I believe there are more than a few panel with Laura Kinney in them. I might put it more in a cameo camp but you will get no argument from me that it is her first appearance. I put a bit of a trick in my response with the X-23 #1 Dell'Otto in that it is not the next appearance of X-23 it is just a book that came much later that is worth way more than the first appearance ($850 for a NYX #3 and $1200 for an X-23 #1 Dell'Otto).

No argument again that SPJO #134 is the first Darseid, lame as it may be. Cameo for sure. However, there is also no mistaking that it realizes more than the first full appearance.

Honestly? I don't really care which is worth more I just believe we should be more clear which is a first appearance and which are not. Whether it is full or cameo I think that it should be "first appearance" with no designation of cameo or full. If the first appearance was a cameo then the first full appearance of that character should be "first full story with...". Splitting hairs for sure and I am sure you will still get some valued higher than other like TIH 181 and SPJO #134. That's fine. From a collector standpoint, when I collect a character I like to get the first appearance even if it was just a cameo (and that is getting popular again with Marvel almost always doing a teaser cameo in one issue and full story in the next) and if you go out and buy TIH 181 you are not getting the first appearance of Wolverine.
7/27/2016
Topic:
Star Trek Beyond

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Oxbladder
I didn't mind the movie. The Jaylah character was a great addition. Not the strongest of the three but certainly better than some of the previous original cast movies.

YMMV
7/27/2016
Topic:
Issues selling too cheap online.

Oxbladder
Oxbladder
The OPs expectations are based upon a faulty algorithm that CPG uses. that and not actually researching what the book is actually selling for.

It is a common thing in the guide. While it is utterly impossible for a guide to exactly reflect the current market that doesn't mean that they cannot strive to be closer in reflecting the current market values. For years CPG has used an algorithm for graded prices and more often than not it has led them to have prices that often are far out of whack with reality. It would be better if the algorithm estimated slightly lower than lead people to believe they may be sitting on a goldmine.
edited by Oxbladder on 7/27/2016
7/29/2016
Topic:
Issues selling too cheap online.

Oxbladder
Oxbladder
Really excellent points/advice. No matter what you choose to try and make your money in you are going to have to learn that market and still have to work at it very hard.
7/31/2016
Topic:
Future State of the Comic Market: Gold/Silver Age

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Oxbladder
There is a TON of room for all ages to grow. I can see key and lesser keys of DC and Timely plateauing but that means that they just move on to other books/genres. One of the reason you see a lot more high priced moderns is how fast many silver and now Bronze have moved out of most people's affordability ranges. There is always another group of books waiting for their time in the sun. Now that time comes sooner.
edited by Oxbladder on 7/31/2016
7/31/2016
Topic:
Issues selling too cheap online.

Oxbladder
Oxbladder
Robbie wrote:
In the example above, people aren't buying the "comic", they are buying the plastic case. Right? That's where most the value is...

But that's new comics. There's always been collectors working on new series.
Problem is; they don't stay new for long. Lots of competition in that space. Once a comic is old, it stays that way.


They are buying the comic. All sorts of people are willing to pay more for that third party opinion. I know I have and I am willing to pay more, in some cases, for that opinion because buying raw, especially online is a crap shoot. I have been pretty luck and have a good system but it took a number of misses to get there. With a graded book the crapshoot is gone. I know what I am getting.
7/31/2016
Topic:
Issues selling too cheap online.

Oxbladder
Oxbladder
cobalt91 wrote:
What about issues selling for too much as I have just looked at the
Lyria Exchange and they have Moon girl and Devil Dinosaur number 1 at a
9.8 going for $93 currently. Take away the cost of the case which would
be about $40 and you have people willing to pay $53 plus shipping for
this comic book.


If people are willing to pay that much then that is what the value is. Or are you telling me you have never been willing to pay more to get a book?
edited by Oxbladder on 8/2/2016
7/31/2016
Topic:
CGC Turnaround Time?

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Oxbladder
They give their TATs here:

https://www.cgccomics.com/services/services.aspx?index=true

12-15 weeks it looks like.
edited by Oxbladder on 7/31/2016
8/9/2016
Topic:
2nd printing values

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Oxbladder
I think you can thank the much maligned variant craze for people taking a new view on second prints. People will pay for manufactured scarcity now and all modern reprintings have lower print runs.
8/9/2016
Topic:
Increased Value of Autographed Comics

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Oxbladder
I don't believe that there is a set percentage that a signature will increase the value of a book as it is completely up to the buyer whether they wish to add value for that signature or not. It also will largely depend on if the book is graded and the signatures confirm through this process since just about anyone can copy the standard COA out there. I would think that 5-15% might be the average value increase but it could vary either way depending on the signature. A Jack Kirby authenticated signature is bound to garner more than Valerio Schitti.

You also have to contend with the people like me who believe any signature, indeed any writing by anyone, is a defect. However, some of us can value a authenticated signature in itself even if we may not agree the book is the stated grade.
8/10/2016
Topic:
Need info

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Oxbladder
If you type in "strange", "two", and "Luke" into the search you should get the series you are looking for. I was going to post the links but my tablet kept wiping out my posts.
8/11/2016
Topic:
2nd printing values

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Oxbladder
But most of the variants from the 90's did not have artificial rarity factored in. They were 50/50. In the middle to late 90's independent publishers did rationed variants, and limited editions, Marvel and DC did some "reward" variants that had much lower print runs. Things like the retailer platinum Superman #75, and Uncanny X-Men #354 Bachalo Phoenix variants were both rationed. Glow in the darks, and other such covers were pretty much printed to order (as in the retailer could order both the fancy cover and the regular cover) or 50/50.

When newsstand distribution was basically wiped out and direct distribution was forced to consolidate (eventually giving Diamond the monopoly it has) it allowed the incentive variants to come into being. Not that the rewards and "surprise" variants didn't encourage certain ordering behaviors but now it was easier to set up and track because the bulk of the numbers comes through one system not several.
8/11/2016
Topic:
Undervalued/Under the Radar: Silver Age DC/Marvel

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Oxbladder
Perhaps they should be but despite the prominence in the DCU now that these characters have that has never translated to the older material. There are plenty of books/titles that should command more money based on several factors but they just don't. For example, even though Wonder Woman v.1 prices have gone up and some issues significantly, they still do not command all that much despite the extreme scarcity of copies in a solid VG and better of the run between 45/6 and 1961. Heck most DC titles are hard to find in nice shape in this period and generally command multiples of guide and yet are never reflected in the guide and, IMHO, for how hard they are to find considerably cheaper than they should be. But hey, I wish all my book were worth millions. That just isn't going to happen. 90% or more of what is ever released is going to appreciate very slowly. Most of the money is going to be thrown at the major keys, minor keys, and the major super heroes. The rest is are mostly going to be stuck in the mire.