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Michael Posts: 284
8 days ago
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The Guide is incorrectly posting blind bags as a comic. This poses multiple problems. First some blind bags come with multiple issues per bag. The original price is based on the bag with all comics but then looking at values it shows prices based on that number which is understandable if you sell the bag unopened but this disregards the value of each individual comic. A rare virgin cover will not be bought or sold at the same price as a blank common cover. Also as far as pricing, the graded values reflect the bag as a whole and obviously each comic would be graded individually. This makes all blind bag graded values incorrect.
Further more, thinking of the future. What if you look up a comic not knowing it was a blind bag and you dont have the pics to match it to? I'll give the example of "Harley Quinn X Elvira" #6 blind bag I purchased.
https://comicspriceguide.com/titles/harley-quinn-x-elvira/6E/pnppbxx
I received a blind bag Amanda Conner virgin cover. We have her virgin cover listed at a $50 value but no pic. Is it the same? I assume not but if that cover is high dollar wouldnt a similar blind bag cover have a high value too?
Another example is "Vampirella" Vol8 #1 blind bag that came as a three pack.
https://comicspriceguide.com/titles/vampirella/1G/pnppcqp
Sold at about $20, values reflect that price but graded values follow the same. So if graded is each one per that value or do I divide by 3?
Finally, if listing comics sold by package there are missing listings. For example my "Transformers" Toys R Us 3 pack or my "Youngblood" collectors pack (see pic).
The collectors pack even is numbered, that should be listed as a whole before a blind bag.
Please correct the blind bags as they are not comics. I understand this is easier and a way to get new comics listed quickly in a modern age of infinite covers per comic but this will only cause future problems let alone the inaccuracy.
Please dont take this as anger or rudeness I know you guys work hard and each comic has too many details with nonstop new editions, Im just picky.
Thanks
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glorkar Posts: 692
7 days ago
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I don't personally go for blind bags so I haven't noticed this.
I would have to imagine that they have one listing for the sealed bag.
The variants available inside should have their own separate listings.
If there isn't a cover picture, it's because nobody (site admins or users) has uploaded one yet.
You are more than welcome to submit cover images on specific listings, just be sure to follow the guidelines (no photographs, cropped to edges, etc...)
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Michael Posts: 284
7 days ago
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Thanks for reply. I have made at least one variant submission and thanks for agreeing about separate listings. If they do make a listing for a blind bag they could not post a graded value or list comic specifics, you would also end up doubling up on listings if the included comic is posted. Adding to the confusion are the bags that come with multiple copies. In the end is the blind bag a comic that can have value and specific details or packaging?
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pittlw Posts: 176
6 days ago
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The blind bag craze is making a mess, but they can be cleaned up by having some kind of rule as to how to list the comics inside the bag. Keenspot has done a great job of this by naming every cover they are offering and giving them a cover number. I have included an example where the blind bag is cover A, and each possible cover is assigned a number, so number 10 becomes A10, number 72 is A72. https://comicspriceguide.com/titles/mark-spears-monsters---the-monster-wolf/1/pixqovy
So even though the blind bag is not a comic, it contains one or more, so the included covers should be cover (whatever the bag was for the cover) and the number or letter of the variant inside of the bag.
As far as value, still sealed would be based on what the bag was sold for, once opened, it is subject to the commonality or scarcity of the comic included.
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Michael Posts: 284
6 days ago
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Good answer. What about showing graded values on blind bag issues? To be graded the bag would need to be opened meaning bag grades dont exist. Also if they continue being listed the listing should state if the values are per comic or the bag as a whole for bags with more than one.
Finally, do you think we The Guide should also include other packaging such as the one shown in the first post?
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glorkar Posts: 692
5 days ago
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I agree that blind bags should not have a graded value. From my understanding, on polybagged single comics grading companies will open the bag before slabbing.
I know some other hobbies you can get sealed packs slabbed, but that just doesn't happen for comics.
As for the number/letter in the catalog, the individual comics would just follow the standard for typical variants. They each have their own barcode so they get their own listing and associated variant letter. If anything, maybe just a note on the ones that could only be obtained in a blind bag (some bags also contain standard open order variants).
Same logic could be applied to any multipack. I know there are several Wal-Mart variant single books listed, but I haven't looked to see if anyone tried listing the sealed packs on here.
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Michael Posts: 284
4 days ago
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I did forget about "Batman: Shadow Of The Bat" collectors set and they have "Batman" #608 page punchers edition (listed as a figure cover but came with mini-figure.) So I am wrong about packages being listed, mostly frustrated on organizing and pricing the blind bag stuff.
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