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katdancing Posts: 4
7/27/2018
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I'm pricing my Star Wars: Tales of the Jedi and noticed there's a "Gold Cover Variant" - but it's hard to tell from the thumbnails what the difference is (color?) and no info any where else that I saw. How can I tell if it's a standard issue ($3) or Gold Variant ($8) ?
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Ronbatman Administrator Posts: 2381
7/27/2018
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For the variant, the letters of "Tales of the Jedi" are raised and gold, shiny gold.
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katdancing Posts: 4
7/27/2018
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thanks
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Dougdenslowe Posts: 21
8/19/2018
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Is the comic X Men the Road to Onslaught considered a variant?I have a comic that has the above title.Its dated October ‘96.Ive been unable to find a listing for this other than on Amazon as a Kindle edition.They show the exact cover art (which I can’t upload due to my membership status)Its is not one of the Volume 1 with 3 issues published in 2014Mine reads inside as Volume 1 Number 1 October 1996.Does 'anyone know why it’s not listed anywhere ,as I’ve looked on a few different websites and haven’t had any luck except a Kindle version.Thanks for any information.
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Ronbatman Administrator Posts: 2381
8/19/2018
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Doug, when you look in the front cover of the book what does it say the title is? Uncanny X-men? X-men? X-men Road to Onslaught? In the regular x-men title there was a storyline about Onslaught in 1996.
Second question, is this a comic or a trade paperback?
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Dougdenslowe Posts: 21
8/20/2018
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Ronbatman wrote:
Doug, when you look in the front cover of the book what does it say the title is? Uncanny X-men? X-men? X-men Road to Onslaught? In the regular x-men title there was a storyline about Onslaught in 1996.
Second question, is this a comic or a trade paperback?
Thanks for responding.Ill quote the exact wording;X Men:Road to Onslaught Vol. No.1 October 1996
Then the usual Publshed by Marvel.The cover has an X-Men logo with an image of Onslaught.Onslaught is in capital letters down the right side.it might be used on the collected serieys.It has no ads and is on usually thin paper.Back cover has an image of Onslaught with a paragraph of the story coming.Back inside cover has movie poster type credits; X-Men The Road to Onslaught.Scott Lobdell writer and so on.
I’ve been unable to find any information as far as a price quote,guide ,guess or anything else.You are my last hope.
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Dougdenslowe Posts: 21
8/20/2018
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It’s a comic book.Not a trade paperback.The trade paperback does have tons of information and when looking for the Road to Onslaught, I believe it uses the same image on the cover.Since it has 3 volumes, I’m not sure if Volume 1 was the one with same image, but that’s my guess.
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collectibleshop Posts: 2361
8/20/2018
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Doug, is this not it?: https://comicspriceguide.com/titles/x-men-road-to-onslaught/1/phvqhw
mycomicshop has it also: https://www.mycomicshop.com/search?TID=97711
'that' auction site has multiple sold copies from .99-$6, several other price guide sites have it too, so not sure why you couldn't find more about it. a google search for X Men Road to Onslaught 1996 turns up all kinds of results for it. leave out the colon when doing searches on CPG and other search engines, it sometimes messes with results.There's no value to it because its just a 'behind the scenes' look at how they came up with the story and various art stuff, so not really a comic.
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Dougdenslowe Posts: 21
8/21/2018
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Thanks for going to trouble of finding out information for me.I never thought to simply google it ,and couldn’t find it listed anywhere.I hope I didn’t waste your time and I appreciate the information.
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collectibleshop Posts: 2361
8/21/2018
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Dougdenslowe wrote:
Thanks for going to trouble of finding out information for me.I never thought to simply google it ,and couldn’t find it listed anywhere.I hope I didn’t waste your time and I appreciate the information.
didn't take me much time, as the comic showed up right off on a CPG search, and many results on google. I don't know why you couldn't find it on CPG tho.
for future reference, see my search tips on this thread: https://comicspriceguide.com/forum/topic12110-evil-ernie-youth-gone-wild-directors-cut.aspx
Watch CPG's 'How To' youtube videos. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3eOHtGDGIs2A7_jQdSV_ZuYxTmGfs1W1
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BasementComics Posts: 784
10/26/2018
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Hello, I have two different copies of Adventures of Superman 467. One is colored blue up at the top but the other is purple. I have found both pictures online (blue: https://www.mycomicshop.com/search?q=adventures+of+superman+467&pubid=&PubRng=) (purple: http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Adventures_of_Superman_Vol_1_467 ) but not sure if they are truly the same or not. I don't believe its a color fade. The one with the purple stripe has more vibrant colors (Superman's cape is more red). Would this one qualify as a variant? Thanks in advance.
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solarno Posts: 164
10/26/2018
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BasementComics wrote:
Hello, I have two different copies of Adventures of Superman 467. One is colored blue up at the top but the other is purple.
I have found conflicting but interesting info on this issue. There were definitely two versions of this issue printed, a newsstand edition with a barcode and a direct edition with an ad for Action Comics in place of the barcode. The newsstand edition would have been sold at grocery stores, book stores, newsstands, etc., where as the direct edition would have been sold specifically through comic book shops. Both can be seen here: http://comicbookdb.com/issue.php?ID=365863
Based on other pics strewn about the internets it appears that the direct edition has two very different color qualities, either purple top with vibrant, redder colors, or a blue top with muted, more natural looking colors. I've only found images of newsstand editions with the blue top. I did happen across this cool listing for the original color guide print of this cover which shows a blue top: https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1327782.
My theory is this: When they were printing the covers for this issue they ran the newsstand editions first. At some point after they switched plates to run the direct edition covers there was a 4-color mix issue and the magenta plate was printed too heavy resulting in later copies having a much redder tint to it.
To answer your question regarding one being considered a variant, it depends on what your two covers are...
If you have one with a barcode and one without then you could argue that you have a variant. Historically newsstand and direct editions have not been considered variants as they are the same artwork from the "same" print run. But collectors are more and more viewing them as variants as they are actually different print runs with different circulation numbers (though finding exact numbers is near impossible). The printing house would have had to stop the presses to change the printing plates for barcodes or no barcodes. It is by technical definition an intentional variant. I also noted that the newsstand edition carries a publication date (Jun 90) on the cover in the price box while the direct edition replaces that with a UK price of 50p and moves the pub date to below the issue number. Like the barcode box, this would also require different printing plates and therefore qualify it as technically a variant.
If you have two without barcodes then that comes down to probably more of a printing error. I would not classify that as a variant as it is not an intentional change. I personally would say that a blue version of the direct edition should be more desired as it is closer to the colors intended by the artist but that probably does not affect the value. That is unless someone can determine the circulation ratio of the blue to purple direct editions.
Cheers!
Jim
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BasementComics Posts: 784
10/26/2018
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Thanks Jim.
I did check first about newsstand but both have the same logo. As near as I can tell, they are all the same (I even looked at the publication info to see if maybe one was a 2nd print). I really appreciate the detail.
Donald
solarno wrote:
BasementComics wrote:
Hello, I have two different copies of Adventures of Superman 467. One is colored blue up at the top but the other is purple.
I have found conflicting but interesting info on this issue. There were definitely two versions of this issue printed, a newsstand edition with a barcode and a direct edition with an ad for Action Comics in place of the barcode. The newsstand edition would have been sold at grocery stores, book stores, newsstands, etc., where as the direct edition would have been sold specifically through comic book shops. Both can be seen here: http://comicbookdb.com/issue.php?ID=365863
Based on other pics strewn about the internets it appears that the direct edition has two very different color qualities, either purple top with vibrant, redder colors, or a blue top with muted, more natural looking colors. I've only found images of newsstand editions with the blue top. I did happen across this cool listing for the original color guide print of this cover which shows a blue top: https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1327782.
My theory is this: When they were printing the covers for this issue they ran the newsstand editions first. At some point after they switched plates to run the direct edition covers there was a 4-color mix issue and the magenta plate was printed too heavy resulting in later copies having a much redder tint to it.
To answer your question regarding one being considered a variant, it depends on what your two covers are...
If you have one with a barcode and one without then you could argue that you have a variant. Historically newsstand and direct editions have not been considered variants as they are the same artwork from the "same" print run. But collectors are more and more viewing them as variants as they are actually different print runs with different circulation numbers (though finding exact numbers is near impossible). The printing house would have had to stop the presses to change the printing plates for barcodes or no barcodes. It is by technical definition an intentional variant. I also noted that the newsstand edition carries a publication date (Jun 90) on the cover in the price box while the direct edition replaces that with a UK price of 50p and moves the pub date to below the issue number. Like the barcode box, this would also require different printing plates and therefore qualify it as technically a variant.
If you have two without barcodes then that comes down to probably more of a printing error. I would not classify that as a variant as it is not an intentional change. I personally would say that a blue version of the direct edition should be more desired as it is closer to the colors intended by the artist but that probably does not affect the value. That is unless someone can determine the circulation ratio of the blue to purple direct editions.
Cheers!
Jim
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