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Biddle7819 Posts: 170
10/10/2021
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And furthermore you cannot enjoy the actual comic any longer, you get to look at the front and back cover. I got in to comics to read the things, if I wanted a nice picture to look at I'd get a Picasso print!
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Defiant1 Posts: 720
10/10/2021
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Biddle7819 wrote:
And furthermore you cannot enjoy the actual comic any longer, you get to look at the front and back cover. I got in to comics to read the things, if I wanted a nice picture to look at I'd get a Picasso print!
I agree 100%.
My first hobby at about age 8 was stamp collecting. I first went through the house soaking stamps off of old envelopes and putting them in a stamp album.
I was having fun. Then I started vising a stamp and coin store at the local mall and I could get things I'd never see otherwise.
One day I'm at the stamp & coin store and an older collector told me I was doing it wrong.
He said I should be buying uncancelled stamps and I should be using expensive plastic sleeves to slide the stamps into.
He said that is what real stamp collectors do.
I realized that what I was doing for fun wasn't recognized by the community as "real" stamp collecting.
I never bought another stamp.
I closed my stamp collection album and look at it maybe once in 25 years.
When CGC started taking off, I realized it was the comics hobby going the same direction.
It's not something intended to be fun, it's a hobby to stroke some obsessive compulsive person ego and value their comics more.
The first time I saw someone advertising a CGC comic for sale, I clicked the link to a huge high quality image of a graded comic they were selling.
The case was scratched and it dawned upon me... why would I want a perfect comic in a scratched case.
It defeats the purpose on having a nice comic (that you can't read) in a case that has a scratch that's an eye sore.
I realized that there needs to be someone to grade the cases if they were going to be permanently encased in a scratched case.
I got into an argument online as to whether the case was scratched.
I ignore what CGC is doing.
I think it's a scam.
I've seen 9.6's with spine indentions and a color break. I've seen 9.4's that look perfect.
I don't like writing on covers, even date codes. CGC disregards it.
My criteria for liking comics has nothing to do with the CGC standards.
I don't care about slightly blunted corners. That's an idiotic grading criteria that migrated over from the sports card grading.
There's very little to look at on a sports cards, so someone just decided one day that it was relevant for comic collecting.
What used to be classified as Pristine Mint, is now a CGC 10.0, but the Overstreet price guide never listed prices for Pristine Mint.
Overstreet listed prices for Near Mint. That was the target for an acceptable comic. If you got VF on an old comic, you were overjoyed.
If you got a Fine on an old comic, you were pleased.
I now don't waste time buying comics that the CGC snobs are going to turn their nose up to.
I buy rarities, obscure comics, novelty comics, and keys when priced reasonably.
I buy stuff that may not appeal to everyone, but there is someone who will appreciate it enough that it won't need to be a CGC 9.8 to sell.
I do my own thing and I don't care what the CGC is doing.
A CGC case typically makes me uninterested in buying a seller's comic.
When I traded for an Amazing Fantasy #15 in 1994, the first thing I did was read it. I had $300 in it. It was a $900 copy. Now it's probably worth $25,000. If I want to read it... I will.
Collecting is pointless if you can't appreciate the stuff for what it is.
If you are buying encased comics, you might as well be collecting photographs of comics and calling that your hobby.
The difference between me collecting at age 8 and me collecting now, is that I don't care what or why other collectors do what they do.
I have opinions, but I don't really care.
edited by Defiant1 on 10/10/2021
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Geo8martinez Posts: 1
11/30/2021
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@ biddle and defiant. I agree with you guys. I was feeling uncomfortable about trying to sell my bronze era raw comic books , thinking they weren't worth anything because I had read them and then my kids read them. I don't understand spending a bunch of money on a book you can never open and actually read. To me as soon as you case it its worthless.
I was feeling alone until I came across your comments.
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