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Al Cohol Posts: 4
2/23/2021
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It seems an awful lot like 9.8 is the new 10 and even 9.9. my recent experience just doesnt include the 9.9 or 10 variety. Not by choice as I would love more opportunities to get these rare in grade comics. Just what does a ten have over a 9.8? How come even books hot off the presses seemingly un touched can't grade above 9.8? Not just specific grading company's all seem to use just opening the comic removes it from that possible 10 immediately. Maybe it's me, seems if we are going to grade this way maybe the huge gap between a 10 and a 9.8 on the value scale should shrink in favor of the 9.8 gaining value or something that adds up better to an opinion. What do you see?
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Xvipah73 Posts: 357
2/23/2021
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From what I understand it's about printing defects. CGC (and I assume the others) will give a 9.8 and call a book mint/nm if there are defects they can pass off as production defects. A 9.9 and a 10 can't even have that. No fingerprints for a 10, no small production defects for either 9.9 or 10. Nothing can be wrong, the book literally has to be pristine. And when they get a 10 candidate my bet would be they go over it with a fine tooth comb to assure that nothing that could even remotely invalidate it is there, possibly with more than 1 grader.
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Al Cohol Posts: 4
2/23/2021
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Al Cohol wrote:
It seems an awful lot like 9.8 is the new 10 and even 9.9. my recent experience just doesnt include the 9.9 or 10 variety. Not by choice as I would love more opportunities to get these rare in grade comics. Just what does a ten have over a 9.8? How come even books hot off the presses seemingly un touched can't grade above 9.8? Not just specific grading company's all seem to use just opening the comic removes it from that possible 10 immediately. Maybe it's me, seems if we are going to grade this way maybe the huge gap between a 10 and a 9.8 on the value scale should shrink in favor of the 9.8 gaining value or something that adds up better to an opinion. What do you see?
No matter what the have to flip through all the pages in order to achieve a 10 thusly making it a 9.9? IDK?!
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Oxbladder Posts: 487
3/25/2021
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Al Cohol wrote:
Al Cohol wrote:
It seems an awful lot like 9.8 is the new 10 and even 9.9. my recent experience just doesnt include the 9.9 or 10 variety. Not by choice as I would love more opportunities to get these rare in grade comics. Just what does a ten have over a 9.8? How come even books hot off the presses seemingly un touched can't grade above 9.8? Not just specific grading company's all seem to use just opening the comic removes it from that possible 10 immediately. Maybe it's me, seems if we are going to grade this way maybe the huge gap between a 10 and a 9.8 on the value scale should shrink in favor of the 9.8 gaining value or something that adds up better to an opinion. What do you see?
No matter what the have to flip through all the pages in order to achieve a 10 thusly making it a 9.9? IDK?!
It is a common fallacy that handling a book drops the grade. A 10.0 is free from all defects, mechanical and human since the printing process is not perfect and many hands and machine will handle a book from printing to sale it is pretty much impossible to get 9.9 and 10.0's. Printing is a much better now than it used to be and so it s not all that uncommon to achieve 9.8's. If you look at books printed now compared to previous decades you can see that production flaws are far less common than in the past especially alignment of the graphics on the cover. In the 60's and 70's misaligned graphics and staples were the norm so even if you have a book surviving in high grade and it fits a 9.8 or better even a very minor misalignment of the graphics can send a book down into a 9.8. The paper now also helps in that it is a heavier gauge and does not age in the same ways the old newsprint does so you also don't have the loss of grade points linked to pages becoming off-white or yellowing.
IMHO since they switched from the more expensive newsprint and printing has gotten better 9.8's should't be as pricey as they are since it is really really easy to achieve such a grade. However it is very hard still to get the 9.9 and 10.0's so those should command the real premium not the ever so common 9.6 and 9.8's.
edited by oxbladder on 3/25/2021
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