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glorkar Posts: 689
10/25/2020
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Try as I might, can't seem to find this one. Just want to make sure I wasn't missing something obvious.
Tried the usual search tricks, with and without issue number:
warhammer
warhammer in "any country"
warhammer 40,000
warhammer 40K (really should just pick one and go with it!)
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collectibleshop Posts: 3088
10/25/2020
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it's part of the Will of Iron series, #5-8: https://comicspriceguide.com/titles/warhammer-40000-will-of-iron/xnsxb#srcGroup-28
the issue you attached is #6.
this is a common problem with this title, wish Titan wouldn't title them this way. comics.org lists it as a separate mini-series tho. and note to ronbatman--why are some of this series listed as 40,000 and others are 40K? and they aren't cross-referenced that way, but should be, if you're going to buck how everyone else lists them, as 40,000 like the title says 
another tree-fiddy in the bucket..
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glorkar Posts: 689
10/25/2020
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Yeah. That's a little awkward. It's obviously just issue 6 of warhammer 40,000, but the indicia says it's warhammer 40,000: revelations #6.
Thanks for the assist though
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Ronbatman Administrator Posts: 2530
10/26/2020
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I've looked at this title and there are some strange things from Titan.
The UPC uses the same title numbering system for issues 1-12 (71032)
They also keep numbering the issues upward. The first Warhammer 40k Revelations is numbered 5 instead of starting over at 1
However, the indicia states the title as "Warhammer 40,000: Revelations #5"
So two things for keeping the title "Will of Iron" and one for making the title "Revelations". Very weird.
I've added "40k" into the search terms for any title using "40,000". Now if you search Warhammer 40,000 or Warhammer 40k, all titles will appear.
Ron
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collectibleshop Posts: 3088
10/26/2020
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yes, Warhammer Will of Iron has caused several 'can't find it' posts due to Titan naming the mini-series within the series on the covers without including Will of Iron above them.
but since there's only 12 issues, why not just add the mini-series/story title to the subtitle, as you all did with #9 (Fallen pt 1 of 4)? And add the sub-titles on each issue, not just #1
Whether you can tweak the search engine to read the subtitles so they can be found, I dunno. But it would make it easier for some to find them as they can narrow their looking to the 2016 series and scroll down and MAYBE notice the subtitles.
comics.org has them listed as separate mini-series, but if you go by the numbering near the UPC code and inside, it's obvious they're numbered with the Will of Iron series, so a coin-toss for how sites will list them. If Titan had just put 'Will of Iron: Fallen/Revelations' in the titles, that would have avoided the problem, but they didn't.
thanks for fixing the 40,000/40k thing, that will help too.
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glorkar Posts: 689
10/27/2020
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That's the thing though, I don't think Will of Iron is the "master" name of the series. It's just the name of the first of the three mini-series / story arc.
Will of Iron is books 1-4
Revelations is books 5-8
Fallen is books 9-12
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collectibleshop Posts: 3088
10/27/2020
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glorkar wrote:
That's the thing though, I don't think Will of Iron is the "master" name of the series. It's just the name of the first of the three mini-series / story arc.
Will of Iron is books 1-4
Revelations is books 5-8
Fallen is books 9-12
Seems that way to me too, but it's the way they number them as all part of Will of Iron, so that's how CPG numbers them. Someone at Titan wasn't thinking very clearly to me, but not having read any of the issues, I don't know how or if they tie together. If I was CPG, I'd cross-ref them separately under their own titles too, and make a note in the subtitle that they're 'part' of the Will of Iron listing.
but that may depend on how the stories tie together, if at all.
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Ronbatman Administrator Posts: 2530
10/27/2020
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Ok, so this is what I did to clarify things.
1. Added a note into the title describing the 3 story arcs
2. Added in search terms so that you can search for "Warhammer 40k revelations" and "Warhammer 40k fallen".
3. Changed the variant covers to match Titans numbering. Cover B matches our 1B, Cover C matches our 1C, etc
4. Added a description of the individual issues with the story arc and part number.
That's all I have people,
R
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collectibleshop Posts: 3088
10/27/2020
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yay Ron! tree-fiddy for you.
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glorkar Posts: 689
10/27/2020
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Looks great. Thanks for the effort.
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