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taskmaster
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Let's say you run a comics business. Collectors come in the door and they want some new hot book. Let's say you ordered extra and had a few copies on the shelf. The first one, you sell for cover price. The collector smiles. He buys it and walks out of the store. A second collector shows up and wants it. You sell it for cover price. You call the distributor and discover it's not available for reorder. Now there is a dilemma.


If you sell out, you are going to send your customers to the competitor down the street or to online retailers. It's a hot book. If you want to restock it and make money on the sale, you have to buy it from someone who charges more than your distributor. If you are lucky and can buy it back from a customer at the same price he paid. If you do, you just negated all profits you made on the previous two comics you sold. In order to make any money, a retailer has to mark it up. They are going to mark it up to what the market will bear. If the retailer likes the cycle of buying comics back at the same price he paid for them, he might only mark it up only 20%. That would be 20% over the escalated price he had to pay to restock it and make it available. Normally it will be higher than 20%. It's not unreasonable for a hot book to double in price after stores start selling out. Restocking that comic usually costs them more.


They have two choices at that point. They either buy it back at the "going price" and charge double or just sell out and watch their customers go to their competitor to get what they want.


Technically, they are in business to sell comics that their customers want. It's a lot smarter to restock and increase the price than it is to sell out and watch your customers start shopping elsewhere.



But the problem I have is that a BRAND NEW book who let's says retails at $3.99 or $4.99 and it sold out and is going for $25 that high for a pre-sale book?? Or one that "Sold Out" before it hit retail???

You NEVER saw this years ago...I can remember buying Amazing Spider-Man #361 at retail and bought 3-4 copies and people KNEW Venom's spawn was coming it didn't go from being $1.25 to $50 or more in a short time it took awhile for that book to go up...
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Taskmaster wrote:
Let's say you run a comics business. Collectors come in the door and they want some new hot book. Let's say you ordered extra and had a few copies on the shelf. The first one, you sell for cover price. The collector smiles. He buys it and walks out of the store. A second collector shows up and wants it. You sell it for cover price. You call the distributor and discover it's not available for reorder. Now there is a dilemma.


If you sell out, you are going to send your customers to the competitor down the street or to online retailers. It's a hot book. If you want to restock it and make money on the sale, you have to buy it from someone who charges more than your distributor. If you are lucky and can buy it back from a customer at the same price he paid. If you do, you just negated all profits you made on the previous two comics you sold. In order to make any money, a retailer has to mark it up. They are going to mark it up to what the market will bear. If the retailer likes the cycle of buying comics back at the same price he paid for them, he might only mark it up only 20%. That would be 20% over the escalated price he had to pay to restock it and make it available. Normally it will be higher than 20%. It's not unreasonable for a hot book to double in price after stores start selling out. Restocking that comic usually costs them more.


They have two choices at that point. They either buy it back at the "going price" and charge double or just sell out and watch their customers go to their competitor to get what they want.


Technically, they are in business to sell comics that their customers want. It's a lot smarter to restock and increase the price than it is to sell out and watch your customers start shopping elsewhere.



But the problem I have is that a BRAND NEW book who let's says retails at $3.99 or $4.99 and it sold out and is going for $25 that high for a pre-sale book?? Or one that "Sold Out" before it hit retail???

You NEVER saw this years ago...I can remember buying Amazing Spider-Man #361 at retail and bought 3-4 copies and people KNEW Venom's spawn was coming it didn't go from being $1.25 to $50 or more in a short time it took awhile for that book to go up...




It was actually quite common.
I saw Superman #75 double in price 4 times within a month. It has one of the highest print runs of all comics and it was selling for $20 within a very short time span. I watched stores sell their subscribers a copy for cover price and buy them back for more than cover price within an hour. The customers were still shopping in the store and they were selling the book back just as they were leaving. The demand was so great, that the store already had customers lined up to buy them at whatever price the store would charge. The store didn't want to mark them up, but their customers were rabid and demanded a copy.


I walked into a store That had Turok #12 priced $4 in their back issue bins. I was being nice and said... "This book is about to be very hot. You might want to increase the price because it's going to sell out and you won't be able to restock." The store manager mocked me. He said "If it's going to be hot, why don't you buy them all." I took offense with his attitude and said "Okay, I will." I bought all 4 copies they had. A few months later, when I traded "hot" Valiant comics for a copy of Amazing Fantasy #15, the convention dealer gave me $90 trade credit on each of those 4 copies I'd bought. That $12 purchase got me $360 in trade credit.


Somewhere around 1996, customer resistance to price spikes came into play and that's when selling comics wasn't worth my time.


I was friends with stores all over town. I could predict which books would be hot even better than the stores. They'd pick my brain to understand why my predictions were so accurate.

Several stores were offering me 45% off my new comic subscriptions just to get me to shop in their stores.


I quit subscribing to new comics at a store that wanted me to have a 45% discount. I told him to only give me a 40% discount so he'd still be making something off of them. He did that, but when I was unable to show up on new comics day, I found out he was selling comics I preordered to other customers. He'd tell me the delivery was shorted. Sometimes he'd reorder the books I want, but sometimes the distributor was sold out and I wouldn't get what I ordered. When I found out what he was doing, I quit buying new comics.
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Defiant1 wrote:
I found out he was selling comics I preordered to other customers. He'd tell me the delivery was shorted. Sometimes he'd reorder the books I want, but sometimes the distributor was sold out and I wouldn't get what I ordered. When I found out what he was doing, I quit buying new comics.




See this is what I have a problem with I guess I look at it different as a "hobby" not a business It's amazing how people don't care about anything and think it's "Foolish" until they sell them $$$$ signs.

Pathetic I live in world where I do get deals and I come across NORMAL dealers who don't have to make $$$$$ or $2-5 books they have $1 boxes for that...Whaaaaa?

I've sold part of my double collection for a fair price I didn't need to get $3 for a COMMON $2 book.

I don't see the real reason why people do that? Just to be greedy?? maybe but I've gotten online and in two stores by me that have been around for over 25 years and they sell those books for a $1 or less.

One of the owners said they buy a collection pick thru the good stuff then sell books like that for $1 or less guess what he say's if we was to charge full price for those he'd still have books that he bought 10 years ago in his store...smile

In a world where people want to get good deals and not get taken thru the ringer it makes me laugh that there is alot of people that charge full price or more for their collections which is a joke...But who am I or they sell the books for full price and the grade is not a 9.4 (People REALLY need to understand that system) but I digress I didn't do that when I sold but some people do..
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Trying to figure out what the deal is on Batman Beyond #50. Is there more to this issue other than being the last of the series?
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Taskmaster wrote:
Defiant1 wrote:
I found out he was selling comics I preordered to other customers. He'd tell me the delivery was shorted. Sometimes he'd reorder the books I want, but sometimes the distributor was sold out and I wouldn't get what I ordered. When I found out what he was doing, I quit buying new comics.




See this is what I have a problem with I guess I look at it different as a "hobby" not a business It's amazing how people don't care about anything and think it's "Foolish" until they sell them $$$$ signs.

Pathetic I live in world where I do get deals and I come across NORMAL dealers who don't have to make $$$$$ or $2-5 books they have $1 boxes for that...Whaaaaa?

I've sold part of my double collection for a fair price I didn't need to get $3 for a COMMON $2 book.

I don't see the real reason why people do that? Just to be greedy?? maybe but I've gotten online and in two stores by me that have been around for over 25 years and they sell those books for a $1 or less.

One of the owners said they buy a collection pick thru the good stuff then sell books like that for $1 or less guess what he say's if we was to charge full price for those he'd still have books that he bought 10 years ago in his store...smile


In a world where people want to get good deals and not get taken thru the ringer it makes me laugh that there is alot of people that charge full price or more for their collections which is a joke...But who am I or they sell the books for full price and the grade is not a 9.4 (People REALLY need to understand that system) but I digress I didn't do that when I sold but some people do..




I knew exactly why he was screwing me over. I sifted
through Previews and picked out comics I thought were interesting. A
lazy customer saw the comic I ordered and the retailer figured he could
get a new customer interested in a comic by selling him the one I
ordered. He wasn't getting rich off of comics. He was hoping to squeeze
out a few extra sales and he hoped I wouldn't find out what he was
doing. He also made more money off of selling it to someone else because
he offered me a stupid high discount on what I ordered. That exactly
why I didn't take the offer. I didn't want him to resent the offer he'd
made me.


You bring up a different issue. The retailer will still get stuck with those $2-$5 books that he's trying to sell for a dollar. Not all of them, but he'll still get stuck with many.
In the grand scheme of things, selling books valued at $5 for $1 negatively affects the perceived value of comics as a hole.

I will digress and tell a story from my youth when I worked in retail. I was really good at what i did, so one day I get assigned to manage a dairy department. I'd never ordered perishables. The previous guy was training me.

He rattled off numbers about what sells and what doesn't. When he got to Half-and-Half he said... "This is inconsistent. Sometimes it sells out, sometimes people don't buy any of it." He told me that if it didn't start selling the day he stocked it, he would mark it down to half price with orange stickers the day BEFORE it went out of date. When he moved on and i took over, I used his advice. What i discovered was that I might sell one uunit at half price and still end up throwing out the rest of the product in the shelf. I was trying to cut losses and it bothered me that selling one at a discount guaranteed a loss on everything. I realized that I would have been better off not discounting the one. The person who needed would have paid full price since it was still good and at least the loss wouldn't be as bad. I decided to see how many I could sell at full price up until the last date of sale. What I discovered is that the shelf sold out if i didn't mark them down the day before they went out of date. The orange "half price" stickers were scaring the customers away because they thought something was wrong with it.


You know a good deal when you see one evidently, but many people (myself included) see dollar boxes and think it's not worth their time. To some degree, my snobbish preconception is completely valid because the retailer has already devalued the product and said it's not worth his time to price them out at a fair market value. He's already telling the customer that the inventory isn't worth what the price guides say it is. In the larger scale of things, customers are deciding that comics don't hold value. Anytime a comic is sold for less than cover price, it sends out a non-verbal message that comics are not worth what the retail price shows on the cover. It doesn't matter that they lost money on what they sold, it still tells the customer that the product is overpriced. Psychologically, that runs off customers and deters them from spending money that would make the overall hobby more successful. If a $5 comic on the new comics shelf was still going to be worth $5 in 6 months, don't you think more customers would be interested in buying the product. We saw that in the 90's. Price increases spur confidence in the product and sales increased geometrically.


The behavior of poor business decisions at all levels of the hobby.... from publisher down to retailer.... are one of the main reason sales have dropped so low. DC is on the verge of ceasing all publications. I don't keep up with the state of current comics anymore, but I recently ran into Ethan Van Sciver (sp?) on a social media site and read some of the things he's been saying and watched a video or two he's made. He really paints a bad picture for DC.


If those dealers quit selling $5 comics for a dollar, it would instill more confidence in the consumer and those $5 books might legitimately be worth $10. If you had bought a $5 comic and saw it increase in value and saw that you could easily sell it for a profit, wouldn't you be more willing to buy more comics?


As I stated previously, when comics go up in value it is due to a self-fulfilling prophecy among collectors that the comics should be worth more and are worthy of owning at a higher price. Dollar boxes inspire people on a budget, but it also keeps their collections having a low market value and it guarantees that they will be harder to sell 5 years from now if you have unplanned financial catastrophe.


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Defiant1 wrote:
Taskmaster wrote:
Defiant1 wrote:
I found out he was selling comics I preordered to other customers. He'd tell me the delivery was shorted. Sometimes he'd reorder the books I want, but sometimes the distributor was sold out and I wouldn't get what I ordered. When I found out what he was doing, I quit buying new comics.




See this is what I have a problem with I guess I look at it different as a "hobby" not a business It's amazing how people don't care about anything and think it's "Foolish" until they sell them $$$$ signs.

Pathetic I live in world where I do get deals and I come across NORMAL dealers who don't have to make $$$$$ or $2-5 books they have $1 boxes for that...Whaaaaa?

I've sold part of my double collection for a fair price I didn't need to get $3 for a COMMON $2 book.

I don't see the real reason why people do that? Just to be greedy?? maybe but I've gotten online and in two stores by me that have been around for over 25 years and they sell those books for a $1 or less.

One of the owners said they buy a collection pick thru the good stuff then sell books like that for $1 or less guess what he say's if we was to charge full price for those he'd still have books that he bought 10 years ago in his store...smile


In a world where people want to get good deals and not get taken thru the ringer it makes me laugh that there is alot of people that charge full price or more for their collections which is a joke...But who am I or they sell the books for full price and the grade is not a 9.4 (People REALLY need to understand that system) but I digress I didn't do that when I sold but some people do..




I knew exactly why he was screwing me over. I sifted
through Previews and picked out comics I thought were interesting. A
lazy customer saw the comic I ordered and the retailer figured he could
get a new customer interested in a comic by selling him the one I
ordered. He wasn't getting rich off of comics. He was hoping to squeeze
out a few extra sales and he hoped I wouldn't find out what he was
doing. He also made more money off of selling it to someone else because
he offered me a stupid high discount on what I ordered. That exactly
why I didn't take the offer. I didn't want him to resent the offer he'd
made me.


You bring up a different issue. The retailer will still get stuck with those $2-$5 books that he's trying to sell for a dollar. Not all of them, but he'll still get stuck with many.
In the grand scheme of things, selling books valued at $5 for $1 negatively affects the perceived value of comics as a hole.

I will digress and tell a story from my youth when I worked in retail. I was really good at what i did, so one day I get assigned to manage a dairy department. I'd never ordered perishables. The previous guy was training me.

He rattled off numbers about what sells and what doesn't. When he got to Half-and-Half he said... "This is inconsistent. Sometimes it sells out, sometimes people don't buy any of it." He told me that if it didn't start selling the day he stocked it, he would mark it down to half price with orange stickers the day BEFORE it went out of date. When he moved on and i took over, I used his advice. What i discovered was that I might sell one uunit at half price and still end up throwing out the rest of the product in the shelf. I was trying to cut losses and it bothered me that selling one at a discount guaranteed a loss on everything. I realized that I would have been better off not discounting the one. The person who needed would have paid full price since it was still good and at least the loss wouldn't be as bad. I decided to see how many I could sell at full price up until the last date of sale. What I discovered is that the shelf sold out if i didn't mark them down the day before they went out of date. The orange "half price" stickers were scaring the customers away because they thought something was wrong with it.


You know a good deal when you see one evidently, but many people (myself included) see dollar boxes and think it's not worth their time. To some degree, my snobbish preconception is completely valid because the retailer has already devalued the product and said it's not worth his time to price them out at a fair market value. He's already telling the customer that the inventory isn't worth what the price guides say it is. In the larger scale of things, customers are deciding that comics don't hold value. Anytime a comic is sold for less than cover price, it sends out a non-verbal message that comics are not worth what the retail price shows on the cover. It doesn't matter that they lost money on what they sold, it still tells the customer that the product is overpriced. Psychologically, that runs off customers and deters them from spending money that would make the overall hobby more successful. If a $5 comic on the new comics shelf was still going to be worth $5 in 6 months, don't you think more customers would be interested in buying the product. We saw that in the 90's. Price increases spur confidence in the product and sales increased geometrically.


The behavior of poor business decisions at all levels of the hobby.... from publisher down to retailer.... are one of the main reason sales have dropped so low. DC is on the verge of ceasing all publications. I don't keep up with the state of current comics anymore, but I recently ran into Ethan Van Sciver (sp?) on a social media site and read some of the things he's been saying and watched a video or two he's made. He really paints a bad picture for DC.


If those dealers quit selling $5 comics for a dollar, it would instill more confidence in the consumer and those $5 books might legitimately be worth $10. If you had bought a $5 comic and saw it increase in value and saw that you could easily sell it for a profit, wouldn't you be more willing to buy more comics?


As I stated previously, when comics go up in value it is due to a self-fulfilling prophecy among collectors that the comics should be worth more and are worthy of owning at a higher price. Dollar boxes inspire people on a budget, but it also keeps their collections having a low market value and it guarantees that they will be harder to sell 5 years from now if you have unplanned financial catastrophe.


Defiant1


Long and drawn out but I'll make it simple and get to the POINT

So you mean to tell me that if for instance I found a copy of Amazing Fantasy #15 for $500 and it was 9.4 the person selling that book will "Ruin" the pricing for that book?

What about that same book I find in my grandmother's attic and I get it for nothing does that "ruin" the hobby?? No it doesn't your trying to make excuses on PRIVATE collector's trying to sell ALL of their books (Even the garbage one's) for FULL price?? That doesn't happen in the retail world so why should it here??

I don't think buying $3-10 comics for a couple of dollars is going to stop the world from turning I just see people being GREEDY bottom line...MANY a people sell their books for not full book and the world goes a spinning still....And people need to UNDERSTAND what GRADING is and how it DOES play a part into price...tooo many people have NO clue...
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1/2/2021

Guest
Taskmaster:

You need to get to the bottom of this problem of yours. Then, get the help you need. You are the Comic Collector version of an Incel, but we can't tell if you are bitching because you sold stuff too soon or too late, or if you missed a spike , etc. All we know, is that you lost big or lost consistently, and bitch about it. You take this too far, being in the Home of CPG and ranting about them, while still expecting someone to fetch you a drink.

Look - I bought Lady Death 1 and sold it like 2 weeks later for $100 - are you going to threaten to fight me over this? Or are you the guy that thinks having 37 variant covers of any comic book issue is a good thing?

"I don't see"
"I don't get"
"Why"
"How come"

You may be in the wrong business or hobby, if there is more in it that baffles you or enrages you, than makes you happy. Just read your flarkin comics, sell what you can and if you can't sell your comics maybe you have crap comics. If you don't get how {Insert whatever item/thing} Market works, stay away. Complaining that you don't get it only serves to remind us all that you keep talking about it but don't get it.

Stop bitching that you missed a trend and those comics you banked on aren't hot any more. Stop bitching because you missed buying a hot comic, or one that became hot later. Stop being that guy PISSED at "The Industry" because his 137 copies of Superman #75 just aren't considered collateral for a home loan.

It's A Market - things that are new have a specific value when sold, after that it's completely up to good old supply/demand. Guess what? It's not going to be what you think or expect. As long as you keep reminding everyone that you are surprised and don't get it, you are going to keep being told NO CRAP

oh and let me get this out of the way- eBay is not a price guide - so as long as you keep bitching about what people at eBay will pay for a comic book, you don't understand anything and forfeit any arguments concerning comic books and Economics

Let me know if I missed anything...
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1/2/2021

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Taskmaster:

You need to get to the bottom of this problem of yours. Then, get the help you need. You are the Comic Collector version of an Incel, but we can't tell if you are bitching because you sold stuff too soon or too late, or if you missed a spike , etc. All we know, is that you lost big or lost consistently, and bitch about it. You take this too far, being in the Home of CPG and ranting about them, while still expecting someone to fetch you a drink.

Look - I bought Lady Death 1 and sold it like 2 weeks later for $100 - are you going to threaten to fight me over this? Or are you the guy that thinks having 37 variant covers of any comic book issue is a good thing?

"I don't see"
"I don't get"
"Why"
"How come"

You may be in the wrong business or hobby, if there is more in it that baffles you or enrages you, than makes you happy. Just read your flarkin comics, sell what you can and if you can't sell your comics maybe you have crap comics. If you don't get how {Insert whatever item/thing} Market works, stay away. Complaining that you don't get it only serves to remind us all that you keep talking about it but don't get it.

Stop bitching that you missed a trend and those comics you banked on aren't hot any more. Stop bitching because you missed buying a hot comic, or one that became hot later. Stop being that guy PISSED at "The Industry" because his 137 copies of Superman #75 just aren't considered collateral for a home loan.

It's A Market - things that are new have a specific value when sold, after that it's completely up to good old supply/demand. Guess what? It's not going to be what you think or expect. As long as you keep reminding everyone that you are surprised and don't get it, you are going to keep being told NO CRAP

oh and let me get this out of the way- eBay is not a price guide - so as long as you keep bitching about what people at eBay will pay for a comic book, you don't understand anything and forfeit any arguments concerning comic books and Economics


Let me know if I missed anything...


I think you are being a little hard on the guy. The publishers are using every trick in their short play book to make comics seem collectible AND sabotage the back issue market at the same time. The odds are completely against profitable speculation on new comics. I would not even consider it.
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Defiant1 wrote:
Taskmaster:

You need to get to the bottom of this problem of yours. Then, get the help you need. You are the Comic Collector version of an Incel, but we can't tell if you are bitching because you sold stuff too soon or too late, or if you missed a spike , etc. All we know, is that you lost big or lost consistently, and bitch about it. You take this too far, being in the Home of CPG and ranting about them, while still expecting someone to fetch you a drink.

Look - I bought Lady Death 1 and sold it like 2 weeks later for $100 - are you going to threaten to fight me over this? Or are you the guy that thinks having 37 variant covers of any comic book issue is a good thing?

"I don't see"
"I don't get"
"Why"
"How come"

You may be in the wrong business or hobby, if there is more in it that baffles you or enrages you, than makes you happy. Just read your flarkin comics, sell what you can and if you can't sell your comics maybe you have crap comics. If you don't get how {Insert whatever item/thing} Market works, stay away. Complaining that you don't get it only serves to remind us all that you keep talking about it but don't get it.

Stop bitching that you missed a trend and those comics you banked on aren't hot any more. Stop bitching because you missed buying a hot comic, or one that became hot later. Stop being that guy PISSED at "The Industry" because his 137 copies of Superman #75 just aren't considered collateral for a home loan.

It's A Market - things that are new have a specific value when sold, after that it's completely up to good old supply/demand. Guess what? It's not going to be what you think or expect. As long as you keep reminding everyone that you are surprised and don't get it, you are going to keep being told NO CRAP

oh and let me get this out of the way- eBay is not a price guide - so as long as you keep bitching about what people at eBay will pay for a comic book, you don't understand anything and forfeit any arguments concerning comic books and Economics


Let me know if I missed anything...


I think you are being a little hard on the guy. The publishers are using every trick in their short play book to make comics seem collectible AND sabotage the back issue market at the same time. The odds are completely against profitable speculation on new comics. I would not even consider it.



I see what you have to go thru Defiant people are like sheep and don't want to care about anything but themselves and **** everybody else...WOW! on they THREATEN you like they are some sort of "Supreme Being"

People don't see the "Real" picture just what they want to and they will harp on that....WOW!

And this guy can't even put a name just "Guest" coward...And learn to spell correct (Maybe next time use your "Auto Correct")
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1/3/2021

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I just saw another "Hot" book that is now turning into "Short Print Run" on E-Bay for big $$$$ when will people learn...


This one was once again a "Common" book that wasn't in demand OR short printed but now it is I guess...WOW!
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Taskmaster wrote:
I see what you have to go thru Defiant people are like sheep and don't want to care about anything but themselves and **** everybody else...WOW! on they THREATEN you like they are some sort of "Supreme Being"

People don't see the "Real" picture just what they want to and they will harp on that....WOW!

And this guy can't even put a name just "Guest" coward...And learn to spell correct (Maybe next time use your "Auto Correct")
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I got logged out but please, be clear that "Guest" was me - and you are the rancid garbage that started a sentence with "here me out how come" , so don't attack my spelling.

That was me, I got logged out before it was posted, if I have to I will copy and post it again to make sure you are clear it is from me - are you clear Guest was me? Good

Thank you for your ranting and crying, you have an anger issue you need to properly direct, before you take it into the real world and get hurt



You are all over the place, and I didn't threaten you - your feeling threatened by the post says a lot though. It says everything I need to know about you



You see, there are a lot of us that have seen things happen to the comic market, and prices and even before the internet was a factor. If your ad wasn't printed on paper your store did not exist outside that neighborhood. We saw comics interest spike and wane, we saw speculation almost destroy the industry. It was die-cut and chromium covers, now it's 137 variant covers and homages because the content itself can't hold itself up. LOTS of different things good and bad. Some things you grumble about and move on. Almost ALL of them, in fact.

You need to pick something specific, and maybe take it to THEM:

GO ATTACK DIAMOND FOR THEIR DISTRIBUTION MODEL BECAUSE YOU MISSED THAT ONE COVER OF MY LITTLE PONY
GO ATTACK VALIANT FOR RUINING THE EXACTLY ONE UNIVERSE WHERE CONTINUITY MATTERED BECAUSE YOU CAN'T UNLOAD PSI-LORDS #1
GO ATTACK MARVEL AND DC FOR THEIR CONSTANT UNIVERSAL REBOOTS BECAUSE YOU CAN'T UNLOAD NEW UNIVERSAL TITLES
GO ATTACK MARVEL AND DC FOR BEING MARVEL AND DC BECAUSE YOU LEARNED THERE ARE INDEPENDENT TITLES
GO ATTACK CGC FOR THE SERVICES THEY PROVIDE AND THE ECONOMIC IMPACT ON YOUR EBAY BUSINESS A DECADE AFTER YOU SOLD THOSE CARDS UNGRADED
GO ATTACK ECONOMICS FOR SUPPLY AND DEMAND AND MARKETING
GO ATTACK HISTORY FOR FADS AND TRENDS

Just. Stop. Attacking. Here.



Look, man - we discuss things here. I have thrown my two cents in the whole Ebay Isn't A Price Guide discussion ( Spoiler: IT ISN'T ) and might have complained once too, about a trend I didn't like
ONCE

Stop before you are banned, and the only outlet you have is closed off to you. You need to stop complaining about free services, about how economics work, how people work, and about airplane food. We heard it all before, and at least once from you. Say it and move on before you hurt yourself, or get hurt.

Peace,
CaptGrelden

Not threatening you but letting you know you seriously do need your ass kicked, man
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rustyauger
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1/4/2021

rustyauger
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lol
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Ronbatman
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1/4/2021

Ronbatman
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O.K., well this has become a thing now. Let's all agree to speak to the issue and not go after individuals, whichever side you're on. We don't mind a lively discussion with varying points of view but we don't want personal attacks. Stay focused on the discussion, topic, or disagreement. This is a hobby and we want it to be enjoyable for everyone, new and old.

If there are personal attacks from this point on, I will delete that post.

Enforcing a kinder and gentler environment with an iron fist. smile
Ron
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taskmaster
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taskmaster
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CaptGrelden wrote:
Taskmaster wrote:

Not threatening you but letting you know you seriously do need your ass kicked, man


See your the one that doesn't "Get It" who's hostile about this? Not me...
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rustyauger
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1/6/2021

rustyauger
rustyauger
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I believe it should be "you're"
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Defiant1
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1/6/2021

Defiant1
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Comic collecting is fun.
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