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taskmaster Posts: 265
9/27/2020
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glorkar wrote:
Is there a specific issue you're talking about? Chances are if it's a book that's being hyped up because of a movie or something, the price will fall back down after all the masses move on to the next new thing. A perfect example of that is Incredible Hulk 258 because of the Black Widow movie. CPG puts it at about $3, but everything listed on eBay right now is $10-$30 for midgrade copies.
See why is that book going up??? What reason none of those characters except Red Guardian are in the film and his first appearance was in Avengers Because there is "major" speculation that Ursa Major might show up in the movie. 
Maybe I've been hearing it's more like Omega Red....
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BasementComics Posts: 784
9/27/2020
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I just don't get why you are so angry about it. The comic book market follows the same rules of capitalism as any other market. Why should comics be any different? Why do you feel there should be a code that protects our hobby from market forces. If they are priced too high they won't sell and if someone pays $100 for a $3 book they are stupid and deserve to get ripped off.
It's like when people get mad about Chuck Rozanski not giving Edgar Church's family enough money for the greatest comic score in history as if he owed it to them. It's capitalism people! It ain't pretty but it is the way it is.
I read his post (yeah, I subscribe to his newsletter) about that. Its such an awesome story.
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CaptGrelden Posts: 21
10/1/2020
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Counterpoint:
Your example specifically used a case of a single issue selling for outrageous price. Sometimes someone with money to burn will want to drop $50 on SuperPro 1 but since there will only be ONE example of that ever, we would see that it was an anomaly and the price is really about 30 cents. Movies and TV shows as pointed out can fan flames of Demand but thats a curve you can see as the price spikes and then goes away. The reason eBay is used as a guide is because its dynamic - it updates and trends are easily seen, without the need to have someone remember to update anything. We aren't waiting for an update, we can see months of sales ( completed ) and get an idea of approximate worth, based on Demand.
Bloodstone #1: https://comicspriceguide.com/titles/bloodstone/1/porpbt
eBay *Sold* results for Bloodstone #1: https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=bloodstone+1&_sacat=0&rt=nc&LH_Sold=1&LH_Complete=1
That page alone goes back to early July. Raw, it seems the book averages 75-100 and graded 9.4 or higher a couple hundred or more.
I'm going to do myself a favor and *not* sell issues 1-4 for a total of less than $20 as a formal, reliable Guide suggests, because I know I can get at least 100 for them without trying as eBay easily shows.
What is the suggested alternative? Basing Value on the prices of the comics on the wall behind the register at our local comic shop? That's as stupid as comics with 20 variant covers to assure record sales Of course a one-off sale can make people who don't know any better assume Value is increased - but when eBay shows a consistent trend because of what people are willing to pay, then yes it does become a Guide to Pricing, even if not a Price Guide
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Defiant1 Posts: 720
10/2/2020
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I've pondered this awhile. eBay is not a price guide.
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taskmaster Posts: 265
10/3/2020
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CaptGrelden wrote:
Counterpoint:
Your example specifically used a case of a single issue selling for outrageous price. Sometimes someone with money to burn will want to drop $50 on SuperPro 1 but since there will only be ONE example of that ever, we would see that it was an anomaly and the price is really about 30 cents. Movies and TV shows as pointed out can fan flames of Demand but thats a curve you can see as the price spikes and then goes away. The reason eBay is used as a guide is because its dynamic - it updates and trends are easily seen, without the need to have someone remember to update anything. We aren't waiting for an update, we can see months of sales ( completed ) and get an idea of approximate worth, based on Demand.
Bloodstone #1: https://comicspriceguide.com/titles/bloodstone/1/porpbt
eBay *Sold* results for Bloodstone #1: https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=bloodstone+1&_sacat=0&rt=nc&LH_Sold=1&LH_Complete=1
That page alone goes back to early July. Raw, it seems the book averages 75-100 and graded 9.4 or higher a couple hundred or more.
I'm going to do myself a favor and *not* sell issues 1-4 for a total of less than $20 as a formal, reliable Guide suggests, because I know I can get at least 100 for them without trying as eBay easily shows.
What is the suggested alternative? Basing Value on the prices of the comics on the wall behind the register at our local comic shop? That's as stupid as comics with 20 variant covers to assure record sales Of course a one-off sale can make people who don't know any better assume Value is increased - but when eBay shows a consistent trend because of what people are willing to pay, then yes it does become a Guide to Pricing, even if not a Price Guide
Yes but you get those people that see the E-bay listing and not sold AS the price and they jack it up to match which is stupid...
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comfan Posts: 85
10/3/2020
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I think of EBay as more of a market indicator than a price guide.
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taskmaster Posts: 265
10/10/2020
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comfan wrote:
I think of EBay as more of a market indicator than a price guide.
I just saw Adam Legend Of The Blue Marvel #1 go for almost $700 RAW with two dings in it?
WTF is wrong with people?? Don't they know that alot of dummies are going to THINK that's the price??
I really like it when comic book were a small niche type market now that they are main stream prices are going thru the roof....
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fdaz89 Posts: 56
10/10/2020
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Were you around in the 90s? This is nothing compared to that insanity.
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taskmaster Posts: 265
10/10/2020
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fdaz89 wrote:
Were you around in the 90s? This is nothing compared to that insanity.
Yes I was but this is CRAZY and some people are like sheep...and go with the herd...
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