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<title>Message from Geo8martinez</title>
<description><![CDATA[@ biddle and defiant.  I agree with you guys. I was feeling uncomfortable about trying to sell my bronze era raw comic books , thinking they weren't worth anything because I had read them and then my kids read them. I don't understand spending a bunch of money on a book you can never open and actually read. To me as soon as you case it its worthless.<br/>I was feeling alone until I came across your comments.]]></description>
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<title>Message from Defiant1</title>
<description><![CDATA[<b>Biddle7819</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote>And furthermore you cannot enjoy the actual comic any longer, you get to look at the front and back cover. I got in to comics to read the things, if I wanted a nice picture to look at I'd get a Picasso print!</blockquote><br/><br/>I agree 100%. <br/><br/>My first hobby at about age 8 was stamp collecting. I first went through the house soaking stamps off of old envelopes and putting them in a stamp album.<br/>I was having fun. Then I started vising a stamp and coin store at the local mall and I could get things I'd never see otherwise.<br/>One day I'm at the stamp & coin store and an older collector told me I was doing it wrong. <br/><br/>He said I should be buying uncancelled stamps and I should be using expensive plastic sleeves to slide the stamps into. <br/><br/>He said that is what real stamp collectors do. <br/><br/>I realized that what I was doing for fun wasn't recognized by the community as "real" stamp collecting.<br/>I never bought another stamp. <br/><br/>I closed my stamp collection album and look at it maybe once in 25 years.<br/><br/>When CGC started taking off, I realized it was the comics hobby going the same direction.<br/>It's not something intended to be fun, it's a hobby to stroke some obsessive compulsive person ego and value their comics more.<br/><br/>The first time I saw someone advertising a CGC comic for sale, I clicked the link to a huge high quality image of a graded comic they were selling.<br/>The case was scratched and it dawned upon me... why would I want a perfect comic in a scratched case. <br/><br/>It defeats the purpose on having a nice comic (that you can't read) in a case that has a scratch that's an eye sore.<br/>I realized that there needs to be someone to grade the cases if they were going to be permanently encased in a scratched case.<br/>I got into an argument online as to whether the case was scratched.<br/><br/>I ignore what CGC is doing.<br/>I think it's a scam. <br/><br/>I've seen 9.6's with spine indentions and a color break. I've seen 9.4's that look perfect.<br/>I don't like writing on covers, even date codes. CGC disregards it.<br/>My criteria for liking comics has nothing to do with the CGC standards. <br/>I don't care about slightly blunted corners. That's an idiotic grading criteria that migrated over from the sports card grading.<br/>There's very little to look at on a sports cards, so someone just decided one day that it was relevant for comic collecting. <br/><br/>What used to be classified as Pristine Mint, is now a CGC 10.0, but the Overstreet price guide never listed prices for Pristine Mint.<br/>Overstreet listed prices for Near Mint. That was the target for an acceptable comic. If you got VF on an old comic, you were overjoyed.<br/>If you got a Fine on an old comic, you were pleased.<br/><br/>I now don't waste time buying comics that the CGC snobs are going to turn their nose up to.<br/>I buy rarities, obscure comics, novelty comics, and keys when priced reasonably. <br/>I buy stuff that may not appeal to everyone, but there is someone who will appreciate it enough that it won't need to be a CGC 9.8 to sell. <br/><br/>I do my own thing and I don't care what the CGC is doing. <br/><br/><br/>A CGC case typically makes me uninterested in buying a seller's comic. <br/><br/><br/><br/><br/>When I traded for an Amazing Fantasy #15 in 1994, the first thing I did was read it. I had $300 in it. It was a $900 copy. Now it's probably worth $25,000. If I want to read it... I will. <br/><br/>Collecting is pointless if you can't appreciate the stuff for what it is. <br/><br/>If you are buying encased comics, you might as well be collecting photographs of comics and calling that your hobby.<br/><br/><br/>The difference between me collecting at age 8 and me collecting now, is that I don't care what or why other collectors do what they do. <br/><br/>I have opinions, but I don't really care.<br/><i>edited by Defiant1 on 10/10/2021</i>]]></description>
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<title>Message from Biddle7819</title>
<description><![CDATA[And furthermore you cannot enjoy the actual comic any longer, you get to look at the front and back cover. I got in to comics to read the things, if I wanted a nice picture to look at I'd get a Picasso print!]]></description>
<pubDate>Sun, 10 Oct 2021 17:00:53 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Message from pthomas2010</title>
<description><![CDATA[<b>brianpeppers</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote>Professional grading is a big scam for the most part, and we all just play along with it because we want more money for our books.</blockquote><br/><br/>I think it is a good premise, but since there is no central authority that can actually certify that a grader has gone through a universally accepted curriculum and is subject to audits for consistency, how are CGC graders any more expert than a collector or dealer who has been grading comics for selling or to buy for many years. The only advantage the CGC grader has is that he knows how CGC wants books graded. By the way, CGC opened the doors and proclaimed themselves the authority of comic grading. They answer to nobody. Doesn't matter how consistent the grading is or if they contradict themselves. There are no fines or penalties to the company regardless of quality, and nobody to monitor them anyway. In actuality, the only difference between a graded comic and a raw one is the pretty, official-looking plastic tomb with a fractional number out of 10 showing how close to perfect it is. I think it's ridiculous that the values get obscene just from the act of being put in the case. If the grader says it is a 9.8 copy, hasn't it been all along? Why does sealing it up make it 10-20 times more than when it was raw in some cases. Also, if a grader leaves CGC and goes to work in a comic shop, does that mean all his grades command the same prices as the slabbed CGC copies, or does he lose the ability to grade  accurately when he leaves? The amount of money changing hands for some comics these days really highlights how screwed up our hobby is, and that we deserve fairness and consistency buying and selling our comics. Every day there is at least 1 sale that is the equivalent of a nice car for a 32-page kid's book made of newspaper, and we have  allowed a grading company to manipulate the market however they want to.]]></description>
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<title>Message from brianpeppers</title>
<description><![CDATA[Professional grading is a big scam for the most part, and we all just play along with it because we want more money for our books.]]></description>
<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2021 14:25:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Message from Theoldcollector</title>
<description><![CDATA[If it's a comic that is very rare like Action Comics #1 just a single page from that book can go for thousands of dollars so a graded 1.0 of a very rare or sought after book can fetch a very high price if it's rare and wanted by collectors. The comic market is high right now but also just because someone is asking 19k for something doesn't mean it's worth 19k. Some people on sites like EBay will do that as kind of a place holder when the book is for sale in a store and posted up on Ebay for a high dollar amount. They then can receive offers from buyers via EBay and still have it on display and up for sell in their actual store at the same time. Use the graded prices here  on this site to give you a starting point but because the market is crazy right now the price of some stuff is changing daily so you will have to research sold listings and not just on EBay but other sites and stores as well. There are multiple auction sites just dedicated to comics. This site does a good job trying to keep the prices updated for their current values and members make suggestions on price changes as well to help. So this is a great place to get a feel on prices.]]></description>
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<title>Message from Ronbatman</title>
<description><![CDATA[The market determines the selling price.  Most of the time the market has peaks and valleys related to price.  Something or someone hypes a book as important and collectors race to buy it, driving up the price.  After a couple of months when those collectors have bought it, the issue cools off.  Unless you're talking about Miles Morales or Peter Parker or Venom, those issues don't ever seem to cool off.  <br/><br/>If a book is highly sought after by collectors and rare then anything can happen.  19k for a very low grade means it has to be highly sought after or the seller is "shooting the moon".  There's a lot of that going on right now.<br/>Ron]]></description>
<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2021 11:47:16 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Message from Dudz</title>
<description><![CDATA[I recently say a 1.0 graded comic for sale of almost $19 000.00 how can that be?<br/><br/>I understand having a comic graded but who then determines the selling price?]]></description>
<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2021 11:31:27 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Message from Theoldcollector</title>
<description><![CDATA[Like Ron was saying it's 3rd party graded. So a 9.4 raw is not the same as a CGC 9.4. The CGC one has been graded by a professional grader and then as mentioned by Ron it's sealed in plastic then encapsulated in a plastic shell. So yes the price of a CGC 9.8 is going to normally be way above a raw book that may be a 9.8. There is also money involved in getting a book graded and one heck of a wait time plus all the shipping and insurance costs as well. Plus getting the book cleaned and pressed before hand. If someone buys what looks to be a 9.8 raw they don't know for sure without inspecting it thoroughly for any issues including any restoration attempts if they are really getting a 9.8. 3rd party grading companies help with that part of buying and hence why the prices are way higher.]]></description>
<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2021 15:55:24 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Message from Ronbatman</title>
<description><![CDATA[When the site says "graded" comics it doesn't mean books you have graded.  Comics Price Guide means books that a third party like CGC or CBCS graded.  Those books are encapsulated in hard plastic, have a grade and cannot be read again.  Raw books are ones that you've graded and say it's a 7.0 or 8.5 or whatever.]]></description>
<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2021 14:00:05 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Message from Dudz</title>
<description><![CDATA[Sorry to necro this thread but I was wondering how people justify $6000 comics with a +- 9.4 grading?<br/><br/>I am going through various posts on comics and the grading thereof and then the prices they are asking for the then graded comic and it's mind blowing.<br/><br/>I understand that there might be a buyer willing to pay that price for a graded comic but how would a seller determine the price of that comic?<br/><br/>I want to sell my comics and ungraded I determined their prices to be around $3 dollars a piece without shipping and around $6 with shipping, obviously negotiable but then I downloaded the grading app and I attempted to grade my own comics.  I graded 2 comics and one was a 7.0 and the other was a 9.4, so should I adjust my pricing in line with other similar graded comics although they have been graded by the CGC?]]></description>
<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2021 13:35:50 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Message from tarn kronos</title>
<description><![CDATA[So many people before me....What path shall I tread?    If you know how to judge a restored book from a universal book then good...but a lot of green horn's don't....so CGC graded copied are good for buyer and seller....Nuff said!]]></description>
<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2020 01:31:06 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Message from BasementComics</title>
<description><![CDATA[I was tracking some of those Golden age Batman and Detective and submitting them for price suggestions.]]></description>
<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2020 16:28:07 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Message from rustyauger</title>
<description><![CDATA[Of course there are cases where people buy and sell below and above market value but every day graded comics sell for more money than raw comics whether they are in low grade or high grade. I don't understand why so many comics on CPG have them valued the same.]]></description>
<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2020 16:18:41 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Message from Defiant1</title>
<description><![CDATA[The value of something is solely based upon what I'm willing to pay or how cheaply I'm willing to sell something. <br/><br/> I bought a comic for $75 that had no established value associated with it. Most people wouldn't have paid $3 for it. <br/><br/>I bought a comic for $1 that regularly sold online for $75 and up because the retailer didn't take the time to research what he was selling. <br/><br/>Collectors are reluctant to sell comics for a loss unless they are leaving the hobby or they've been hit with heavy financial hardships. <br/><br/>Is eBay a good guide for prices? No, because I don't buy online and I'd be willing to pay triple what some people are paying. The people who may be willing to pay more aren't searching everyday for the item. <br/><br/>Is a comic valued $1,000 in the price guide worth $100 if one collector goes through a divorce and sells it for $100? <br/><br/>A dealer sold me a solid copy of Strange Tales #110 for $35 once. He could have gotten hundreds of dollars for it. <br/><br/>There is no way to make pricing scientific.<br/><br/>The people trying to rely on science are usually trying to manipulate the values. They value it low if they are buying and they value it high if they are selling or boasting.<br/><br/>I don't buy graded books. I refuse to pay an extra $30 for a comic I can't read. In some cases, the graded comic is less desirable to collectors. I'm not going to buy a comic that's graded and bust it out of the shell. If someone wanted their comics graded, they can rot in that case. I have no interest in any slabbed comics.<br/><i>edited by Defiant1 on 6/30/2020</i>]]></description>
<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2020 22:33:26 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Message from rustyauger</title>
<description><![CDATA[So why FF 48 and not others like say Strange Adventures 205 or any Golden Age Batman?]]></description>
<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2020 14:21:17 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Message from Ronbatman</title>
<description><![CDATA[There are all kinds of variations to this.<br/><br/>For example, we changed the price on Venom #3 last week and the raw prices were the same as graded until 9.8.  So a 9.6 graded and a 9.6 raw were selling for the same price.<br/><br/>If you look at Savage She-Hulk #1 the difference between raw and graded happens at 8.0.  7.5 raw and 7.5 graded are almost the same.<br/><br/>If you look at Captain America 117 (first falcon) the difference happens at 9.0.<br/><br/>If you look at Fantastic Four 48 there is always a difference between raw and graded.<br/>Ron]]></description>
<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2020 14:36:31 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Message from rustyauger</title>
<description><![CDATA[Why are graded books only valued more than raw books on this site if they are graded 9.0 or higher?]]></description>
<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2020 22:46:32 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Message from quinnspuddinjoker</title>
<description><![CDATA[Chesterd57, not sure of a real question by you. You need once again need to start your own thread in GENERAL COMIC DISCUSSION. Ok, you got a collection of comics from family. So are you wanting to keep the books or sell?]]></description>
<pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2019 18:47:51 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Message from Chesterd57</title>
<description><![CDATA[Hello all, I recently posted under forum thread but an still looking for any insight on what to do with some comics I recently received through a family member death. There are aprox. 9 comic boxes each full of sleeved comics. There is a DC box, Marvel box, and several misc boxes. There are also some 10c and 25c comics that were stored separately.  There are Archie comics, Archie Girls (?), and Jetta, 3 number 5, 2 number 6, and 3 number 7. One of the Jetta comics has minor frayed edges, one has a store stamp on the cover, all others seem to me reasonably solid and in good shape. I don't want to spend the money and time to grade the comics if i don't  have to, any suggesstions on the best direction to go is greatly appreciated. I've never collected anything in my life, other than arrowheads, so thank you in advance if you have  time to offer some ideas. Regards]]></description>
<pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2019 09:17:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Message from Minimilk</title>
<description><![CDATA[I don't believe this article]]></description>
<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2019 16:11:49 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Message from Oxbladder</title>
<description><![CDATA[<b>Jc102602</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote>I don't agree with this. Having a third party validate or confirm the quality of an item of value should always increase the price of that item, especially since the owner absorbed the cost (sometimes heavy) of getting the item valued.  This is a common practice across other areas and is justifiable since we are not certified graders and can be biased. Also, the slab offers a degree of protection not offered by just a bag and board. </blockquote><br/><br/>The thing is though is the owner of the book is purchasing the grading service. A buyer has to agree that there is a value to that service to be willing to pay over raw realized values. If a seller who has a graded book for sale wants more for sure then they are going to have to ask for more money and be willing to wait for a buyer to be willing to spend that extra money. <br/><br/><br/>Basically a service only adds value if the buyer agrees it adds value. In the case of graded books in most cases it does. But it is not always true. More often than not it is on keys and mostly higher grades. On some book you will find that the difference between graded and "raw" book is much more variable where raw values can be the same or higher. In such cases often the market on graded will adjust the next time one is up for sale.<br/><br/><blockquote>In my experience, it is is an extremely rare occurrence where a graded version of a book will go for the exact same price as its raw counterpart (unless the seller is intentionally going below guide to sell fast). If this site is going to take a position otherwise, then the price quoted on CPG just isn't based in reality or what's actually happening in the market.</blockquote><br/><br/>The position should be to price a book on as much data as possible and from as many different sources and regions as is possible. If there is no data the should be no listed value. In other words, they shouldn't be setting prices based on a algorithm. Now that isn't always realistic.]]></description>
<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2018 13:59:52 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<b>Jc102602</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote>Its possible that we might not be debating the same thing, but I'm not contending the existence of outliers.  I'm challenging the accuracy of the reported values that I assume are supposed to be a reflection of the bell curve.  It is possible that if some unlucky soul were to compile ALL market data and perform a comprehensive analysis then we may discover that the standard deviation is much larger than anyone would've anticipated.  In the event of this "wild, wild west" scenario, we may be forced to challenge the whole enterprise of formal price guides in general.  Regardless, I believe that a workable deviation exists and would have to conclude that most people do as well, otherwise we wouldn't be using/relying on these guides.</blockquote><br/><br/>My opinion is CPG does a good job and puts a rather conservative price on comics. There are occasions that I do not agree with prices here. An example is common issues from late 1970's on lower grade - usually very low priced here. I think this reflects big stores discounting and getting them off their books to focus on more profitable items. I usually sell mid to low grade 1970's comics for $2 at local comic shows (e.g. Spider-Woman, Shazam). <br/><br/>If you are looking to see what a comic is worth, always check more than one source. Newkadia has prices based on the Overstreet guide. Other good sources are Comic Book Realms and MyComicShop.com.  <br/>Just my opinion. <br/><br/>KDS]]></description>
<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2018 08:54:17 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Its possible that we might not be debating the same thing, but I'm not contending the existence of outliers.  I'm challenging the accuracy of the reported values that I assume are supposed to be a reflection of the bell curve.  It is possible that if some unlucky soul were to compile ALL market data and perform a comprehensive analysis then we may discover that the standard deviation is much larger than anyone would've anticipated.  In the event of this "wild, wild west" scenario, we may be forced to challenge the whole enterprise of formal price guides in general.  Regardless, I believe that a workable deviation exists and would have to conclude that most people do as well, otherwise we wouldn't be using/relying on these guides.]]></description>
<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2018 12:19:14 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Message from pthomas2010</title>
<description><![CDATA[What ox is saying is that you can say a book is "worth" whatever you want, but the price it sells at determines the actual value. Rarity of an item doesn't matter if nobody wants it. There must be a paying customer.]]></description>
<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2018 11:07:06 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[I don't agree with this. Having a third party validate or confirm the quality of an item of value should always increase the price of that item, especially since the owner absorbed the cost (sometimes heavy) of getting the item valued.  This is a common practice across other areas and is justifiable since we are not certified graders and can be biased. Also, the slab offers a degree of protection not offered by just a bag and board. <br/><br/>In my experience, it is is an extremely rare occurrence where a graded version of a book will go for the exact same price as its raw counterpart (unless the seller is intentionally going below guide to sell fast). If this site is going to take a position otherwise, then the price quoted on CPG just isn't based in reality or what's actually happening in the market.]]></description>
<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2018 05:03:09 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Message from Oxbladder</title>
<description><![CDATA[<b>GinoDiCaprio</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote>I find the Price Guide focuses on the wrong things, for example, a mainstream company that has a print run of over 300,000 copies and then sells because of a demand went from $2 to $800, but a comic that came out at the same time that only has less then 3,000 print goes from $2 to $3. Sorry in my book "demand" or "NOT', that lower print run is worth $100. </blockquote><br/><br/>The wrong thing would be pricing any book with no demand and a "low" print run at an arbitrary price. There are loads of books that have "low" print runs when compared to the big two but that doesn't mean they those print runs are actually low. Take The Walking Dead #1. There were something like 7500 of those printed. Back then that would have been a really good print run for a smaller publisher and for a genre that hadn't experienced a comeback yet. Now though that 7500 usually cannot meet demand. There were likely a couple of hundred other books that had print runs smaller when TWD #1 came out but are not worth more than cover, if that, because there is no demand for them. <br/><br/>Demand dictates prices not how many were printed or how many surviving copies exist. You could have a book that had a print run in the thousands, tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands and still go up in price steadily because the supply never meets demand and, at the same time, have a book that only had a few hundred or few thousand print run be worth no more than cover because there simply is no demand for that book.]]></description>
<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2017 16:19:32 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Message from rixmaxx</title>
<description><![CDATA[<b>GinoDiCaprio</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote>To be honest, I do not rely on grading prices, and I collect books, not for investment but because I enjoy them. Yes, I did and still do buy multiple copies if I feel the art or the story is fantastic. Sometimes if it is an independent company that I know only has a small print run and very rare with a good story or art, I would support them by buying multiple copies.<br/><br/><br/> <br/><br/><br/>Now for grading, I do not rely on other as in GCC since I have noticed on some of their gradings I do not always agree with. And at shows, the problem is too many people open a sealed copy and put their fingers on it, and the grad can change automatically if they don't purchase it and put it back.<br/><br/><br/>I find the Price Guide focuses on the wrong things, for example, a mainstream company that has a print run of over 300,000 copies and then sells because of a demand went from $2 to $800, but a comic that came out at the same time that only has less then 3,000 print goes from $2 to $3. Sorry in my book "demand" or "NOT', that lower print run is worth $100. <br/><br/><br/></blockquote><br/><br/>But how is it "worth" $100 if nobody wants it?<br/><b><br/></b>]]></description>
<pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2017 10:09:52 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[To be honest, I do not rely on grading prices, and I collect books, not for investment but because I enjoy them. Yes, I did and still do buy multiple copies if I feel the art or the story is fantastic. Sometimes if it is an independent company that I know only has a small print run and very rare with a good story or art, I would support them by buying multiple copies.<br/><br/><br/> <br/><br/><br/>Now for grading, I do not rely on other as in GCC since I have noticed on some of their gradings I do not always agree with. And at shows, the problem is too many people open a sealed copy and put their fingers on it, and the grad can change automatically if they don't purchase it and put it back.<br/><br/><br/>I find the Price Guide focuses on the wrong things, for example, a mainstream company that has a print run of over 300,000 copies and then sells because of a demand went from $2 to $800, but a comic that came out at the same time that only has less then 3,000 print goes from $2 to $3. Sorry in my book "demand" or "NOT', that lower print run is worth $100. <br/><br/><br/><br/><br/><br/><br/><br/><br/><br/><span style="color:#3d3d3d"><br/></span><br/><span style="color:#3d3d3d"> </span>]]></description>
<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2017 13:33:22 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<b>aegirthor</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote>So just to be clear<br/><br/>I´m looking at a copy of Star Wars #1 1977 for sale for 1189 US. This guide lists this specific example at raw 600 and graded 1200 US. Given this I assume this is a safe buy since it´s up against the market value? Market value being the graded value?<br/><br/>Thanks</blockquote><br/><br/><br/><br/>I have this in a 9.4 but can't justify the price doubling just for something spotted under a microscope or however they grade. We don't read comics under a microscope. Grading should be by the naked eye IMO.<br/><br/><br/><a href="https://ibb.co/eZGada" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://preview.ibb.co/cWoABv/S3740001.jpg" border="0"></a><br/><a href="https://imgbb.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">high res image hosting</a>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[I'm of the ilk of where if I need the book I will buy it. I have Sub-mariner number 1 in quite a state but I have it. Not too bothered about the little nicks and dents here and there that brings the book down too much in grade IMO. I do like the CGC signed books though. Don't think I would buy a book signed if it wasn't witnessed by CGC. Have a few signed from (can't think of the name of them now. It will come to me. Dynamic Forces that's the ones.) with the COA whom I trust quite a bit. Haven't purchased from them in a long time as I much prefer the CGC sigs now.<br/><br/> Problem I have with CGC is they need looking after more. If that slabs cracks it is not classed as graded then. I sold a lot of my CGC because of this. Just have my special ones I like too much. Comics look much better in a Mylite, again just my opinion.<br/><i>edited by imatonkatoo on 9/3/2017</i>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[So just to be clear<br/><br/>I´m looking at a copy of Star Wars #1 1977 for sale for 1189 US. This guide lists this specific example at raw 600 and graded 1200 US. Given this I assume this is a safe buy since it´s up against the market value? Market value being the graded value?<br/><br/>Thanks]]></description>
<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jul 2017 11:39:38 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Message from Supermanicflash</title>
<description><![CDATA[I have about 500 comics from the silver and bronze age. How would I go about selling them as a lot?]]></description>
<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2016 21:45:25 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Newbie here on the site, but have been collecting for a while.  I've got a handful of graded books--mostly keys and signed keys.  Went that route to ensure what I was buying.  After that I think it's all a matter of personal preference.  I'm not slabbing everything, but will do so to preserve certain books.  If i want to re read later, i can just buy a reader copy.]]></description>
<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2016 20:35:30 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Message from lealew7</title>
<description><![CDATA[I ONLY HAVE ONE CGC GRADED COMIC, WHICH WAS A GIFT FROM MY GUY; BUT MOST OF MY COLLECTION HAS BEEN BOUGHT RANDOMLY THROUGH THE LAST 20 YEARS. I ALWAYS WENT FOR WHAT CAUGHT MY EYE AND I ALWAYS LOOKED FOR EITHER SETS OR THE FIRST FEW OF ANY COLLECTION. YOU NEVER KNOW, AND I DO WHAT I CAN TO JUST KEEP THEM AS CLEAN AS POSSIBLE. I AM ONE WHO DOES NOT MIND BUYING A MIXED UP BOX OF RANDOM GOODIES, BUT I DON'T JUST GO BUYING THEM FROM ANYWHERE. I USUALLY COME OUT WITH A NICE COLLECTION PER BOX IF I BUY THEM<img src="images/smilies/smile.gif" border=0 alt="smile" />]]></description>
<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2016 17:42:44 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Message from BburgDaddy-o</title>
<description><![CDATA[<b>knparzival</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote>I think the true value and premiums for graded books come in to play when dealing with much older books.    There are so many defects that are hard to detect online or at a crowded comic shows including things like color touch ups, missing pages and trimming.   A lot of people including myself will pay more for a graded copy to protect them self even if its not a high grade book.<br/><i>edited by knparzival on 1/4/2016</i></blockquote><br/><br/>The quality of paper used in comics today is vastly superior to those from much of the 80's and earlier. I have a couple hundred indies titles from the late 80's like <i>The Silent Invasion</i>, for instance, that look just as pristine as they did 30 years ago. Unless a newer book (last 25 years or so) is a key or extremely low print run, I don't see the benefit of slabbing unless you're trying to flip a hot title or speculate that it will be extremely valuable in another 25 years.<br/><br/>I agree that the older the book, the more stock you can put into having it professionally graded. By encapsulating them, you can better preserve that grade while the same books not having gone through the process continue to accumulate more wear, tear and degradation.]]></description>
<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2016 19:31:53 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Message from CapnDoug</title>
<description><![CDATA[<b>kporourke97</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote>"<span style="color:rgb(61, 61, 61)"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Rule of thumb: Your comic is worth at least "raw" prices...graded or not. If it's graded and a 9.6 or greater, you can probably get over guide for it..."</span></span><br/><span style="color:rgb(61, 61, 61)"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><br/></span></span><br/><span style="color:rgb(61, 61, 61)"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">I am new at this site, and trying to sell comics for the first time.</span></span><br/><span style="color:rgb(61, 61, 61)"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">I have over 10,000 comics, mostly from 80s.</span></span><br/><span style="color:rgb(61, 61, 61)"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><br/></span></span><br/><span style="color:rgb(61, 61, 61)"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">If a comic is worth the raw price, I am noticing a lot of comics for sale on this site are priced much less than the raw price.</span></span><br/><span style="color:rgb(61, 61, 61)"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">ACTION comics #595 as an example.  Raw price for 9.4 is $12, but there are 5 comics listed at 9.4 grade for $3.75 or less.</span></span><br/><span style="color:rgb(61, 61, 61)"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><br/></span></span><br/><span style="color:rgb(61, 61, 61)"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Just trying to learn how to properly price the comics I list for sale on this site.</span></span><br/><span style="color:rgb(61, 61, 61)"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><br/></span></span></blockquote><br/><br/>Action Comics #595 is probably not a good example.  It recently went up in value after having been relegated to the dollar bins at most conventions.  So, if people posted their listing before it went up earlier this year and have not adjusted, they will be priced below guide.<br/><br/>That being said, many people will price their comics below guide in order to encourage sales.  I have several $4 or $5 comics that I am selling for $1 each, in order to sell them quicker.  That's not to say that I couldn't get $4 or $5, it just might take a lot longer.  And, as with everything else, comics are worth what the buyer is willing to pay.]]></description>
<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2016 13:53:51 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Message from kporourke97</title>
<description><![CDATA["<span style="color:rgb(61, 61, 61)"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Rule of thumb: Your comic is worth at least "raw" prices...graded or not. If it's graded and a 9.6 or greater, you can probably get over guide for it..."</span></span><br/><span style="color:rgb(61, 61, 61)"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><br/></span></span><br/><span style="color:rgb(61, 61, 61)"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">I am new at this site, and trying to sell comics for the first time.</span></span><br/><span style="color:rgb(61, 61, 61)"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">I have over 10,000 comics, mostly from 80s.</span></span><br/><span style="color:rgb(61, 61, 61)"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><br/></span></span><br/><span style="color:rgb(61, 61, 61)"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">If a comic is worth the raw price, I am noticing a lot of comics for sale on this site are priced much less than the raw price.</span></span><br/><span style="color:rgb(61, 61, 61)"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">ACTION comics #595 as an example.  Raw price for 9.4 is $12, but there are 5 comics listed at 9.4 grade for $3.75 or less.</span></span><br/><span style="color:rgb(61, 61, 61)"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><br/></span></span><br/><span style="color:rgb(61, 61, 61)"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Just trying to learn how to properly price the comics I list for sale on this site.</span></span><br/><span style="color:rgb(61, 61, 61)"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><br/></span></span>]]></description>
<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2016 12:21:47 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Message from beav62</title>
<description><![CDATA[<b>genuine_article_comics</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote>... I'm very much less concerned with the difference between a 9.8 and 9.6 than I am with a NM and VF.  If you're in this hobby solely for investment and concerned about Returns On Investments (ROI) then slabbed is the way to go. For me, investment is a factor, but it's certainly not the biggest or main reason I collect. </i></blockquote><br/><br/>Yes, but if you find a modern book cgc graded at 9.8 on ebay for 2 1/2 times less than this sites price guide shows as its graded value, that's a slam dunk purchase, right?  Nothing wrong with some extra value, yes?  Although I get how that value is only realized if you sell the book.<br/><i>edited by beav62 on 2/11/2016</i>]]></description>
<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2016 17:19:09 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Message from genuine_article_comics</title>
<description><![CDATA[Slabbed vs Raw is 100% about buyer confidence. That's why, for me,  slabbed books don't really mean that much. I have confidence in my own ability to accurately grade a book. I'm very much less concerned with the difference between a 9.8 and 9.6 than I am with a NM and VF.  If you're in this hobby solely for investment and concerned about Returns On Investments (ROI) then slabbed is the way to go. For me, investment is a factor, but it's certainly not the biggest or main reason I collect. I trust my abilities to grade a book accurately and will not pay a premium for slabbed books graded by a third party.<br/><i>edited by genuine_article_comics on 1/10/2016</i><br/><i>edited by genuine_article_comics on 1/10/2016</i>]]></description>
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<title>Message from expander</title>
<description><![CDATA[+1 <br/>This is the reason why I very rarely buy slabs at all. I'm all for finding a great buy at a show or convention but I always worry that I'll find some defect after the fact.<br/><br/>As to price differences these days our smart phones are rarley out of reach especially when we're out and about so, a quick google search at a dealers table can give you a good idea whats a fair price or whether you're being gouged or not price wise.]]></description>
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<title>Message from knparzival</title>
<description><![CDATA[As far as I am aware a graded copy is always worth more than a non-graded copy.   Buy getting a graded book not only do you have a higher confidence in the seller representing the grade properly, you get an enclosure.   The premiums for graded books however is seeming to come down especially for modern books.     I believe that is because people are starting to release getting a 9.6 or 9.8 for a modern book is not that rare.   I think the true value and premiums for graded books come in to play when dealing with much older books.    There are so many defects that are hard to detect online or at a crowded comic shows including things like color touch ups, missing pages and trimming.   A lot of people including myself will pay more for a graded copy to protect them self even if its not a high grade book.<br/><i>edited by knparzival on 1/4/2016</i>]]></description>
<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2016 18:32:29 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Message from shadow</title>
<description><![CDATA[It used to be that getting a book graded almost always meant that you would get above "guide" for it...<br/><br/>Everybody was jumping on the "speculation wagon"...<br/><br/>It's not so true anymore.<br/>If your book grades at 9.6 or better, you're apt to get over guide for it because they really are that rare...Having it professionally graded, in some people's minds, is the "seal of approval" that "Yes, my book really is a 9.6."...<br/><br/>Anything 9.4 or below, is just as likely to get you the same price for a "graded" as you can for a "raw"...All slabbing does is give the buyer a little more comfort that it really is a 4.5...and not just the seller saying it is... <br/><br/>Our graded prices have long been based on a formula created from market data. Since not every issue in every grade has been slabbed and then sold and then recorded...it obviously is just a "best guess" formula based on common factors.<br/><br/>What is causing some confusion...is that on some of our titles...after the last upgrade...the "graded" column is pulling from the wrong formula...making it look like the graded are worth less than the raw...<br/>It's not happening on all titles, and we still haven't found the common denominator on the ones that are pulling wrong.<br/><br/>Rule of thumb: Your comic is worth at least "raw" prices...graded or not. If it's graded and a 9.6 or greater, you can probably get over guide for it...<br/><br/>Staff are working to remove the confusion and the price survey team is constantly watching market reports for any changes...<br/><br/>My advice?....Go read a comic and relax  <img src="images/smilies/1cool.gif" border="0" alt="Cool" />]]></description>
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